Greg Bobkin
Silver Seagull
- May 22, 2012
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Yeah – good luck with that. There will still be people who believe he's guilty...
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[News] Kevin Spacey.
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DavePage
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new goalkeeper? good defence behind the backs
- Oct 17, 2008
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Which is inevitable but why we have a legal system.
dejavuatbtn
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Like the alleged victims?
Greg Bobkin
Silver Seagull
- May 22, 2012
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Yep. And it's a system that some people think is great when they agree with the verdict, but think is corrupt when they don't agree with the verdict.
Badger Boy
Mr Badger
- Jan 28, 2016
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Does this mean we can get a proper final season of House of Cards now?
This made me chuckle. I imagined Alan Partridge saying it for some reason;
“Spacey had denied the charges – claiming the allegations against him were “madness”, “absolute bollocks” and a “stab in the back”.
“Spacey had denied the charges – claiming the allegations against him were “madness”, “absolute bollocks” and a “stab in the back”.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
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It's an odd one isn't it? I like the music of Michael Jackson, less so his view on... er... other things. I absolutely love The Usual Suspects and Baby Driver (which is superb), but it's easy to feel a little conflicted when recommending them. "It's an amazing film, but Kevin Spacey is in it so... you know"
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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I thought he sounded like a "Wrong'un " but, it's been to court and as far as I'm concerned that's that. The jury has heard ALL the evidence, not just The Stun shock/horror headlines, and made a decision based on that. Sadly, mud will stick though.
Kuipers Supporters Club
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Can they redo House of Cards now?
Usual Suspects is, and will remain, one of my 3 favourite films.
A long time ago he was beaten up in a park in Camberwell quite early in the morning while taking his dogs for a walk
The implication was he was on the pull and mistook a bush for a cottage, and a cheery cockney 'good morning mate' for an invitation to dance the fandango. Allegedly.Still there is a difference between being a rich cocky and brazen homosexual, and a coercive abuser of position. Once again, the law has spoken that that's that. And this is British law, too, not that load of old 'richest client wins' bullocks you get in America.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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Yes, remember the story of the park, was referred to at the time as being an accidental injury sustained when his dog(s) bolted.A long time ago he was beaten up in a park in Camberwell quite early in the morning while taking his dogs for a walk
Still there is a difference between being a rich cocky and brazen homosexual, and a coercive abuser of position. Once again, the law has spoken that that's that. And this is British law, too, not that load of old 'richest client wins' bullocks you get in America.
- Oct 17, 2008
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Detective: “We put it to you that you sexually assaulted person X”This made me chuckle. I imagined Alan Partridge saying it for some reason;
“Spacey had denied the charges – claiming the allegations against him were “madness”, “absolute bollocks” and a “stab in the back”.
Partridge/Spacey: “That… that’s bollocks but carry on…”
- Oct 17, 2008
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I’d like to say this; Spacey is my favourite actor. Not my favourite person. He is brilliant in a lot of films and plays, and inevitably his star has fallen on the back on these allegations.
I work in theatre, including West End, and have met Spacey several times at functions. I thought his “coming out” was very distasteful off the back of the allegations - as was his video in character as Frank Underwood - if anyone remembers that.
Everyone knew he was gay even remotely related to the business, and I suspect many of the public assumed. Conflating being gay with alleged sexual assault was extremely tasteless, whether he meant it or not.
That said, he was found not guilty - one of the charges was very serious and the others were attached as “proof of character”. If one falls, the whole “house of cards” (sorry) collapses.
It wasn’t a strong case without that one much more serious (in the eyes of the law) accusation.
I work in theatre, including West End, and have met Spacey several times at functions. I thought his “coming out” was very distasteful off the back of the allegations - as was his video in character as Frank Underwood - if anyone remembers that.
Everyone knew he was gay even remotely related to the business, and I suspect many of the public assumed. Conflating being gay with alleged sexual assault was extremely tasteless, whether he meant it or not.
That said, he was found not guilty - one of the charges was very serious and the others were attached as “proof of character”. If one falls, the whole “house of cards” (sorry) collapses.
It wasn’t a strong case without that one much more serious (in the eyes of the law) accusation.
Sepulveda
Notts County's younger cousins' fan
Very good actor, as an aside in Italian he's dubbed by my favorite dubber 
Weststander
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Some on NSC/social media at its worst in 2017. Keyboard Matthew Hopkins’s acting as both judge and jury.
Thank god we have a legal system.
Thank god we have a legal system.
I was under the impression he decided to come out before being outed (always best to feel you have some control over the situation). It seemed little more than clunky to me at the time.
But I do recall some people reacting as if he was offering homosexuality as an excuse for assault. That struck me as reflective of the prejudices of the viewer rather than anything to do with Spacey.
How does it pan out in Swedish?Very good actor, as an aside in Italian he's dubbed by my favorite dubber