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[Politics] Keir Starmer
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With Angela Rayner as deputy, according to the FT, with Rayner winning on the third round, Starmer on the first
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
WINS.
Labour have a proper leader again.
Game On.
Labour have a proper leader again.
Game On.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 72,280
The right choice for Labour IMO.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Congratulations to the new leader of Her Majesty's Most Loyal Opposition.
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Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
That's a good team. Starmer's intellect and experience with Raynor's gritty northern realism.
The Lemming Stomper
Under the flag
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Just Win Baby !
(c Al Davis)
Just Win Baby !
(c Al Davis)
Pretty pink fairy
Banned
- Jan 30, 2008
- 31,981
Another bad loser
Regards
DF
Regards
DF
Pretty pink fairy
Banned
- Jan 30, 2008
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Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Should be better than the previous one, not that the bar is set very high
Grombleton
Surrounded by <div>s
- Dec 31, 2011
- 7,356
This will trigger the racists.
Oh, I see it already has.
Oh, I see it already has.
Probably the best they have... didn't do very well with BrExit policy at the General Election... but at least he is smart enough to think on his feet at PMQs.
I couldn't disagree more.
Churchill got us through WW2 and the Great British public rewarded him by electing Labour to rebuild the country. The Tories are doing an absolutely awful job of Covid19 (and I don't think Labour would have done any better at all) but that was the way the dice rolled. Boris was brought in as a populist to deliver Brexit and cheer lead the economy through it, definitely his skill set. Blustering his way through a global pandemic? Not his bag.
IF he screws up C19 he's a dead man walking. IF he subsequently screws up Brexit he's a dead man walking. IF he compounds C19 economic misery with Brexit economic misery the Tories won't get back in for 20 years. If he does ok through both events, history shows that the public still may want a good deal of big government and public spending to get us back on our feet.
Without Covid19 I would have said Boris was on course for a Thatcher-esque length of service. With it anything's possible.
portslade seagull
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At least it's a turn in the right direction. Will he get rid of the scourge that is Momentum by expelling them
Cadiz Seagull
Grey bearded old man
Suprised he won, I thought the Unions would block him. I'm not a Labour voter but I think he's the best choice. Any Government should have a half decent opposition who can give them a run for their money. Not one that can't get support in the middle ground and therefore be unelectable.
Not the conventional analysis... yet. Plenty of time though, and the aftermath is bound to be brutal.
YouGov poll, 1-2 April (changes since 2019):
CON: 52% (+7)
LAB: 28% (-5)
LD: 8% (-4)
SNP: 5% (+1)
GRN: 5% (+2)
BXP: 1% (-1)
Good news