Forster's Armband
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That is BS mate, MK Don's have no money and promote YTH players through the ranks.
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Karl Robinson approached by Albion
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That is BS mate, MK Don's have no money and promote YTH players through the ranks.
Nonsense they have a midtable budget at league one level and his wheeling and dealing and focus on youth has earnt them a profit 2 years running if I'm not mistaken.
Would be a pretty good appointment in my opinion he's very well respected in the game.
London Irish
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And Richie Barker - sacked by Crawley after about eleven 0-0s in a row.
Not for me. I'm not sure I have the same opinion as TSB but I can't see why he'd come. There's every chance they'll go up and we'll go down. It really, really needs someone who knows this division unless we've already meekly accepted relegation.
spanish flair
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We will have a management team of Barber, Burke and Robinson reporting to Bloom and the nearest thing we have to anyone with experience of actually playing League football would be Nathan Jones! F**king brilliant.
OvingdeanSeagull
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I don't understand how some people are SO against this. I understand if he's not your first choice but come on. He's a very young manager who plays good football and has got MK Dons playing ridiculously well this year, they have already beaten Crewe 6-1, Colchester 6-0, Oldham 7-0 and Man United 4-0 just half way into the season. Those are just individual results but they're also second in the league with a game in hand. He seems like a great choice to me.
London Irish
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Nope - very few teams in League 1 have money - would have had top 6 all his time there - Crawley were even reckoned to have the 8th about a season or two ago.
Focus on profit? Had Barber hacked your account? We need managers who can spend money like Gus did!
saafend_seagull
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Barham's tash
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As my earlier post alluded to i'm less than enamored by the prospect but hey ho.
This article has a number of interesting factoids to consider:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2012/sep/24/mk-dons-karl-robinson-sunderland
Karl Robinson has a name now, unlike the day he was appointed as the manager of Milton Keynes Dons in 2010. "It was funny: for six months everybody talked about 'the youngest manager in English football' but no one ever mentioned my name," recalls Robinson, now 32 and known for more than just his age. When Martin O'Neill takes Sunderland to Stadium mk for Tuesday's Capital One Cup tie, he will be pitting his wits against a manager who is tipped to emulate his own progression from the lower leagues.
In the two years that he has been in charge since replacing Paul Ince, under whom he worked as first-team coach at both MK Dons and Blackburn and then assistant manager, Robinson has twice guided the club into the play-offs and cultivated a slick style that has drawn comparison with, yes, Barcelona.
"At this level we are unique in terms of our ball retention," says Robinson. "I remember seeing an interview that Gordon Strachan gave in which he said when he first got a job as manager, all he wanted to do was win and he didn't care how but I've gone the other way in that I want to play well first.
"I do believe that if you play well and enjoy what you do, then nine times out of 10, you should get the results. And it's a joy to watch us. We had 560 completed passes on Saturday [in the 4-1 win at Bury] and we're averaging 425 so far this season." Only six Premier League teams have a higher average, led by Arsenal with 506.
Robinson says this has been his philosophy since his non-league playing days, after which he became, at 29, the youngest person ever to earn the Uefa ProLicence. The Liverpudlian's approach to his studies showed that practical intelligence underpins his idealist vision. "A lot of people doing their badges choose to study Barcelona but in football the less resources you've got, the more you have to do.
"So I wanted to look at teams from both worlds: I chose Athletic Bilbao, who were very interesting, and Shamrock Rovers, who were geared towards being very successful at their level and, the year after I visited them, they were playing against Spurs in Europe. That whole thing was a tremendous learning curve for me."
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Now people are eager to pick his brains. "I've gone back and given lectures to other people doing the courses. In fact in the summer there were some people on the course who also work in League One and I was thinking: 'Hmm, I'm not sure I want to tell these guys too much about how we play.'"
To advance his players' learning, Robinson has made interesting appointments. Mick Harford joined as assistant manager in the summer, after the former England No2 John Gorman retired, and the former Arsenal striker Ian Wright coaches the forwards three days a week. Robinson even pulled off the improbable feat of making Wright uncomfortable under the spotlight when he produced a film of the former striker's goals and asked him to talk the squad through them. "He felt a little embarrassed but we got tremendous resultsout of it. The players were enthralled and really enjoyed the fact they were not just seeing the goals but having him talking about his mindset, his technique and what he did every day in terms of his approach."
Seeing such staff at MK Dons, and names such as Alan Smith and Jimmy Bullard in the playing squad has created a perception that MK Dons are awash with money but Robinson insists that is not the case. "There are teams in this league with twice our budget," he says. "We only have 18 first-team professionals, which is a very small number. We had injuries on Saturday that meant we couldn't even fill the bench. We don't splash cash but we have great togetherness and great staff and feel like we're in a good place."
Robinson is such a contributor to that feeling that players such as Smith and the midfielder Stephen Gleeson only agreed to sign new contracts after assurances that the manager was not going to leave for a bigger club. "I've had chances to jump off but the chairman gave me an opportunity when a lot of other people wouldn't have so I feel I've got to give him something that will make him happy.
"If we can get up to the Championship next year, when our stadium will be completed [with a 32,000-capacity], that would be a phenomenal achievement by everyone."
He sheepishly admits that a long-term dream is to manage Liverpool, the club he still goes to watch as a fan whenever possible. "But I don't mean now, I mean in 15, 25 or 40 years. I've got that time: I guess that's an advantage of starting young."
This article has a number of interesting factoids to consider:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2012/sep/24/mk-dons-karl-robinson-sunderland
Karl Robinson has a name now, unlike the day he was appointed as the manager of Milton Keynes Dons in 2010. "It was funny: for six months everybody talked about 'the youngest manager in English football' but no one ever mentioned my name," recalls Robinson, now 32 and known for more than just his age. When Martin O'Neill takes Sunderland to Stadium mk for Tuesday's Capital One Cup tie, he will be pitting his wits against a manager who is tipped to emulate his own progression from the lower leagues.
In the two years that he has been in charge since replacing Paul Ince, under whom he worked as first-team coach at both MK Dons and Blackburn and then assistant manager, Robinson has twice guided the club into the play-offs and cultivated a slick style that has drawn comparison with, yes, Barcelona.
"At this level we are unique in terms of our ball retention," says Robinson. "I remember seeing an interview that Gordon Strachan gave in which he said when he first got a job as manager, all he wanted to do was win and he didn't care how but I've gone the other way in that I want to play well first.
"I do believe that if you play well and enjoy what you do, then nine times out of 10, you should get the results. And it's a joy to watch us. We had 560 completed passes on Saturday [in the 4-1 win at Bury] and we're averaging 425 so far this season." Only six Premier League teams have a higher average, led by Arsenal with 506.
Robinson says this has been his philosophy since his non-league playing days, after which he became, at 29, the youngest person ever to earn the Uefa ProLicence. The Liverpudlian's approach to his studies showed that practical intelligence underpins his idealist vision. "A lot of people doing their badges choose to study Barcelona but in football the less resources you've got, the more you have to do.
"So I wanted to look at teams from both worlds: I chose Athletic Bilbao, who were very interesting, and Shamrock Rovers, who were geared towards being very successful at their level and, the year after I visited them, they were playing against Spurs in Europe. That whole thing was a tremendous learning curve for me."
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Now people are eager to pick his brains. "I've gone back and given lectures to other people doing the courses. In fact in the summer there were some people on the course who also work in League One and I was thinking: 'Hmm, I'm not sure I want to tell these guys too much about how we play.'"
To advance his players' learning, Robinson has made interesting appointments. Mick Harford joined as assistant manager in the summer, after the former England No2 John Gorman retired, and the former Arsenal striker Ian Wright coaches the forwards three days a week. Robinson even pulled off the improbable feat of making Wright uncomfortable under the spotlight when he produced a film of the former striker's goals and asked him to talk the squad through them. "He felt a little embarrassed but we got tremendous resultsout of it. The players were enthralled and really enjoyed the fact they were not just seeing the goals but having him talking about his mindset, his technique and what he did every day in terms of his approach."
Seeing such staff at MK Dons, and names such as Alan Smith and Jimmy Bullard in the playing squad has created a perception that MK Dons are awash with money but Robinson insists that is not the case. "There are teams in this league with twice our budget," he says. "We only have 18 first-team professionals, which is a very small number. We had injuries on Saturday that meant we couldn't even fill the bench. We don't splash cash but we have great togetherness and great staff and feel like we're in a good place."
Robinson is such a contributor to that feeling that players such as Smith and the midfielder Stephen Gleeson only agreed to sign new contracts after assurances that the manager was not going to leave for a bigger club. "I've had chances to jump off but the chairman gave me an opportunity when a lot of other people wouldn't have so I feel I've got to give him something that will make him happy.
"If we can get up to the Championship next year, when our stadium will be completed [with a 32,000-capacity], that would be a phenomenal achievement by everyone."
He sheepishly admits that a long-term dream is to manage Liverpool, the club he still goes to watch as a fan whenever possible. "But I don't mean now, I mean in 15, 25 or 40 years. I've got that time: I guess that's an advantage of starting young."
saafend_seagull
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How?
Wages can only been a certain % of your turnover. They haven't made any big sales and had the 6th highest average.
Scoffers
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I'm on the fence with this tbh. Not exactly inspired by the idea though.
grummitts gloves
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Exactly, we probably have, but no one is willing to give it a try. How about Bent & CMS for starters? CMS to do the running, Bent to stick it in the onion bag
shaolinpunk
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I like that.
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
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With respect to the OP this isn't being reported elsewhere.
SULLY COULDNT SHOOT
Loyal2Family+Albion!
You are usually well versed so I wonder if you are having a laugh. MK Dons are well off because they don't spend. They hardly ever buy players and they are a selling club. KR has had a very tight budget. Ask any MK Dons fan and they will telly ou they are well pleased with KR except that they felt they should have gone up last season except Bamford left and didn't come back and they couldn't replace him. He's still learning and he makes mistakes but he's a manager with potential and certainly good enough to grow with us.
As for Barker, a reputation as manager does not translate to a role as an assistant manager.... look at Sammy Lee.
London Irish
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Really will be gutted if the board make this appointment. At least Sami's appointment showed some ambition - even if he wasn't properly vetted. This will be greeted by a vast yawn by all those people wavering over renewing season tickets, it's like Bloom's version of Dean Wilkins - a few insiders will like it but the broader fan base will shrug their shoulders and walk
Withdean11
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It helps when you have a player worth £9 Million in your team.
Puppet Master
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- Aug 14, 2012
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7 pages in and someone says it!