[Albion] Kane injured.. Murray for England?

[Biscuit]

Same old sh1t. Going with the old tried and tested names - typical England cannon fodder.

Southgate would rather pick a striker that hasn't played and is rotting in Man City's reserves than a player who plays for an unfashionable club. Regardless of how many he's scored.

And Gomez over Dunk? Please.

 

[Greavsey]

No!
How dare you use logical reasoning, it’s because he’s a Palace C*nt. and that’s final.

Good point well made. I'll stand down.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Same old sh1t. Going with the old tried and tested names - typical England cannon fodder.

Southgate would rather pick a striker that hasn't played and is rotting in Man City's reserves than a player who plays for an unfashionable club. Regardless of how many he's scored.

And Gomez over Dunk? Please.

The argument falls apart with three Burnley players and a Swansea player.

 

[Easy 10]

I think people are vastly over-estimating Glenn Murray's achievements this year and under-estimating the role our system plays in making the absolute most of his range of skills.

He's scored goals his whole career regardless of teams and systems, and against top class opposition.

Look, I'm not saying Murray would rip it up in an England shirt and bag a hattrick on his debut. But as a forward, he can fulfill a role that we do not currently have covered in this squad. Unless you want to revert back to Andy Carrol (constantly crocked) or Peter Crouch (never plays). Otherwise, we're just swapping around the relatively indentikit Vardy/Sterling/Welbeck/Rashford and not really changing anything. I'd CERTAINLY bin off Welbeck out of that lot to accommodate Murray.

 

[Simster]

The argument falls apart with three Burnley players and a Swansea player.

Indeed, and Murray is 34 FFS.


(Or should that be FFS Murray is 34)

 

[BensGrandad]

Simple question what future does GM offer. He would probably be ok in the 2 friendlies but after that what? Let him stay and keep scoring goals for us

 

[BensGrandad]

Same old sh1t. Going with the old tried and tested names - typical England cannon fodder.



And Gomez over Dunk? Please.

Gomez can also play right back if needed so that is a bonus.

 

[Triggaaar]

Simple question what future does GM offer. He would probably be ok in the 2 friendlies but after that what? Let him stay and keep scoring goals for us

For England past this WC, none. But we're not starting to build a team for the future, we've got a WC in a few months. What does Welbeck offer for this year's WC?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Players like Welbeck and Gomez are always going to be more valuable in a squad of 23 as they can play numerous positions.

I don’t see the fuss about Murray, sorry - he’s done well this season and scored 9 goals - but can do one job in the team.

Kane will be back by the World Cup so it’s not really an issue.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Thank goodness Murray hasn't been picked - last think we need with 8 left is him getting injured on international duty. Selfish I know.

 

[The Large One]

Has Jack Wilshere found his way out of Dale Stephen's pocket yet?

 

[BensGrandad]

Players like Welbeck and Gomez are always going to be more valuable in a squad of 23 as they can play numerous positions.

I don’t see the fuss about Murray, sorry - he’s done well this season and scored 9 goals - but can do one job in the team.

Kane will be back by the World Cup so it’s not really an issue.

That is so true.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Palace scum Southgate has played a blinder for his old club:

1. Dunk now below newcomers Tarkowski and Mawson in the pecking order.
2. Dunk already below Cahill, Stones, Smalling, Maguire, Jones, Keane.
3. Makes a move to a big club in order to get international recognition more likely.
4. Makes a big fee less likely as he's not an international.

FWIW I wouldn't have selected Murray. I can't believe Hart is still in the squad either. Similarly, Livermore was driving around in a stolen taxi a month again, he's been mailing in performances for bottom of the table WBA and not a patch on Dale Stephens either. I can only assume Southgate likes admiring Livermore's cock in the showers.

Never has a World Cup looked so bleak - on and off the pitch.

 

[seagulls4ever]

Southgate says: "My preference is always that you have clarity for the players, in terms of you need to be playing regularly, you need to be in good form."

...calls up Hart, Livermore and Welbeck

Murray is hardly going to rip it up at international level, so I'm not surprised he's not included, but has Southgate actually watched Welbeck at all this season? He's looked completely out of place every time I've seen him play for Arsenal this season.

 

[LlcoolJ]

He's scored goals his whole career regardless of teams and systems, and against top class opposition.

Look, I'm not saying Murray would rip it up in an England shirt and bag a hattrick on his debut. But as a forward, he can fulfill a role that we do not currently have covered in this squad. Unless you want to revert back to Andy Carrol (constantly crocked) or Peter Crouch (never plays). Otherwise, we're just swapping around the relatively indentikit Vardy/Sterling/Welbeck/Rashford and not really changing anything. I'd CERTAINLY bin off Welbeck out of that lot to accommodate Murray.

100% correct.

 

[Simster]

Has Jack Wilshere found his way out of Dale Stephen's pocket yet?

Er, I agree Stephens did a job on him in the first half, but Wilshere absolutely ran the game in the last half hour.

 

[perseus]

No Brighton players in the squad

Good

 

[LlcoolJ]

That is so true.

It's not though is it. Gomez yes as he's decent and can fill various positions. But Welbeck? What's the point in having a player who can play in different positions when he's shit?

There's an argument for Liam Rosenior being in the England squad as he can cover most defensive positions and right midfield. A nonsense argument obviously but one that makes as much sense, or less.

I'd rather see Liam getting a chance than Danny Welbeck. Pointless choice, like Hart, Livermore, Mawson..... The exclusion of players in form goes completely against the supposed ethos of the manager and just proves his "completely out of his depth" credentials.

Southgate is a Palace C*** and a clueless one at that. His loss, our gain though.

 

[BensGrandad]

Has Jack Wilshere found his way out of Dale Stephen's pocket yet?

Do you mean the Jack Willshire who completely ran the game in the 2nd half especially the latter part, when we couldnt get the ball off of him but was let down by his front men.

 

[Pavilionaire]

And you have to think that if there's no inclusion of Ryan Sessegnon or Phil Foden then they've got no chance of making the WC squad either.

With Kane missing then surely you select an attacking midfielder capable of scoring a goal (rather than Livermore)?

We're 3 months away from the tournament in a 4-year cycle. Can anyone honestly see how Southgate is setting up this team and who is interchangeable for who?