[News] Just Stop Oil

[portlock seagull]

I think the 'could have' is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. The JSO folk would've had to do a lot of damage for a match to be abandoned. As noted above, there was far more 'damage' to the pitch done by precipitation than protesters. I'd also say that the actual disruption was completely blown out of all proportion by the media and TV anchors getting shouty and angry. Had they not mentioned it, there would be MUCH less coverage of everything to do with them. Funny how those people haven't figured that out – I guess they need to constantly have a target and Huw Edwards is REALLY old news now.

It also strikes me that the protesters don't seem to be the type that would put themselves in harm's way. And I mean real harm, as in getting run over by a racing car travelling at c.100mph as opposed to being twatted and kicked by an angry anti-protester type.

Exactly. Right wing media in hyperbole shocked!

 

[CHAPPERS]

Rishi helicoptered to Birmingham today.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Local fire services are saying arson/accident looks likely

Add ignorance like disposable BBQs, tossing a cigarette away, or leaving a glass bottle where the sun can shine on it.
My son is in charge of the West Yorkshire moorland area, and every year goes on local tv to say portable bbqs are banned on moorland. Every year the peat catches fire and takes days to bring under control.

 

[jcdenton08]

Add ignorance like disposable BBQs, tossing a cigarette away, or leaving a glass bottle where the sun can shine on it.
My son is in charge of the West Yorkshire moorland area, and every year goes on local tv to say portable bbqs are banned on moorland. Every year the peat catches fire and takes days to bring under control.

Same in Canada, my second home. The wildfires there are out of control. You’ve got thousands and thousands of acre of firewood, and people still toss fag ends and light BBQ’s in the woods. Lightning strikes are certainly a big cause too; but human stupidity is a huge cause of these infernos.

As for the out of control temperatures, global record highs - it’s undeniably the effects of climate change.

 

[Machiavelli]

Sunak -- and all that support them -- are the true dangerous radicals ... according to the General Secretary of the United Nations, and implicitly the scientific community, and the head of the International Energy Agency:

Sunak’s new oil and gas licences are ‘moral and economic madness’

PM becomes ‘dangerous radical’, in words of UN chief, by backing fossil fuels incompatible with net zero goals

www.theguardian.com

 

[beorhthelm]

Sunak -- and all that support them -- are the true dangerous radicals ... according to the General Secretary of the United Nations, and implicitly the scientific community, and the head of the International Energy Agency:

Sunak’s new oil and gas licences are ‘moral and economic madness’

PM becomes ‘dangerous radical’, in words of UN chief, by backing fossil fuels incompatible with net zero goals

www.theguardian.com

isn't that based off a soundbite from 2022?

here's something more contempoary and relevant to the JSO campaign:
"If you constantly communicate the message that we are all doomed to extinction, then that paralyzes people and prevents them from taking the necessary steps to get a grip on climate change," he said. "The world won't end if it warms by more than 1.5 degrees," Skea told Der Spiegel. "It will however be a more dangerous world." (IPCC chair, this weekend)

we will continue to need and use some oil and gas in net zero future, that's what the "net" part is about. better to develop and deliver that locally than shipping round the world.

 

[abc]

Sunak -- and all that support them -- are the true dangerous radicals ... according to the General Secretary of the United Nations, and implicitly the scientific community, and the head of the International Energy Agency:

Sunak’s new oil and gas licences are ‘moral and economic madness’

PM becomes ‘dangerous radical’, in words of UN chief, by backing fossil fuels incompatible with net zero goals

www.theguardian.com

We have to find balance in our national and global pursuit of net zero. Thankfully we have moved on relatively pointless distractions about cows and are now focusing on the real issue, the production and consumption of fossil fuels. If we 'just stopped oil' over night then the impact on the world's carbon footprint would be enormous. Unfortunately the world's economy is utterly dependant on fossil fuels and such a move would be devastating and of course, as always, the greatest impact would be on the poorest in society. Therefore there needs to be coordinated global plan phasing out of fossil fields and the phasing in of the alternatives. The latter includes being honest about how the global economy actually functions without oil, which is rarely discussed because its just too difficult. Tiny example: The poorest nations are dependant on grain from counties such as Ukraine for survival. The only way to get that to them is by ship and there are no electric ships yet. Therefore no oil = the death of millions until alternative transport means are developed. This will happen before the millions die from climate change and so the impact of stopping oil and addressing climate change have to be addressed together not in isolation.

So I think Sunak is responsible in admitting, against the current rhetoric, that we need to continue producing oil. What is lacking is a genuine plan to phase its use out and that is something every country needs to engage in, not just Britain. I'm not sure any are and so the world's long term dependence on fossil fuels will continue.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Greenpeace joining in the protests about more oil.

 

[nicko31]

Greenpeace joining in the protests about more oil.

Good work, no solar panels on Rishi's roof. Just a swimming pool that needs its own grid connection.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Should one of these idiots fallen then there would be hell to pay.

Madness.

 

[nicko31]

We have to find balance in our national and global pursuit of net zero. Thankfully we have moved on relatively pointless distractions about cows and are now focusing on the real issue, the production and consumption of fossil fuels. If we 'just stopped oil' over night then the impact on the world's carbon footprint would be enormous. Unfortunately the world's economy is utterly dependant on fossil fuels and such a move would be devastating and of course, as always, the greatest impact would be on the poorest in society. Therefore there needs to be coordinated global plan phasing out of fossil fields and the phasing in of the alternatives. The latter includes being honest about how the global economy actually functions without oil, which is rarely discussed because its just too difficult. Tiny example: The poorest nations are dependant on grain from counties such as Ukraine for survival. The only way to get that to them is by ship and there are no electric ships yet. Therefore no oil = the death of millions until alternative transport means are developed. This will happen before the millions die from climate change and so the impact of stopping oil and addressing climate change have to be addressed together not in isolation.

So I think Sunak is responsible in admitting, against the current rhetoric, that we need to continue producing oil. What is lacking is a genuine plan to phase its use out and that is something every country needs to engage in, not just Britain. I'm not sure any are and so the world's long term dependence on fossil fuels will continue.

Remember we started the industrial revolution, we should be leading from the front. Sunak just doesn't care, its in his DNA.

If we're not careful the EU, US and China will leave us behind. A wasted opportunity

 

[BHANSC]

Greenpeace joining in the protests about more oil.

Domestic Terrorism

 

[RandyWanger]

vive la revolution

 

[The Clamp]

Maybe Sunak can do a close quarter fly-by in a private jet and knock them off the roof.

 

[beorhthelm]

Remember we started the industrial revolution, we should be leading from the front. Sunak just doesn't care, its in his DNA.

If we're not careful the EU, US and China will leave us behind. A wasted opportunity

so an investor will move to the worlds largest producer of oil & gas because we're issuing a few licences? this is subsidy fishing, he'll go where the kickbacks are highest and taxes are lowest.

 

[The Clamp]

so an investor will move to the worlds largest producer of oil & gas because we're issuing a few licences? this is subsidy fishing, he'll go where the kickbacks are highest and taxes are lowest.

Why did he say it then?

 

[nicko31]

so an investor will move to the worlds largest producer of oil & gas because we're issuing a few licences? this is subsidy fishing, he'll go where the kickbacks are highest and taxes are lowest.

Post Brexit you need a compelling reason to invest in the UK.

Sunak's shunning of net zero may retain a few votes in Burnley, but on the other hand will actually lose other Tory voters like Ian Dale. Trying to weaponise the threat of climate change just shows how desperate he has become.

Whilst not the lying criminal that Johnson was, his policies may actually be worse

 

[The Clamp]

so an investor will move to the worlds largest producer of oil & gas because we're issuing a few licences? this is subsidy fishing, he'll go where the kickbacks are highest and taxes are lowest.

The U.K. is a bad investment. It’s fine for a few medium level corporations who want to dodge a bit of tax but for people who have proper money to invest, they are not going to stay in bed with a poorly run country that has no long term vision, is openly backing fossil fuel investment, with a government that is not working in any aspect but instead clinging onto power with stupid, unworkable policies designed to fool dumb right wing morons, is nose-diving into a political abyss, and is likely to take the U.K. economy down with it.

It’s not a good look.
It’s not good business.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Maybe Sunak can do a close quarter fly-by in a private jet and knock them off the roof.

They probably would've gone by the time he arrived back from California...

 

[beorhthelm]

Post Brexit you need a compelling reason to invest in the UK.

Sunak's shunning of net zero may retain a few votes in Burnley, but on the other hand will actually lose other Tory voters like Ian Dale. Trying to weaponise the threat of climate change just shows how desperate he has become.

Whilst not the lying criminal that Johnson was, his policies may actually be worse

sure the way Sunak hamfisted presentation of this is as poor as anything. someone claiming they'll abandon one producer of oil for the largest producer is inconsistent messaging too, i'm sure you can agree. he's after some more £ to compel the investment.