Just how awful is this government? June 2020 edition

[CHAPPERS]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/26/boris-johnson-covid-variants-virus-uk-borders

As it goes, I hope schools do start going back in mid-February, and am thrilled to read Public Heath England declaring primary schools safe to open after half-term. But spare me the giving-of-a-toss about children by the likes of Mark Harper and Steve Baker from the so-called Covid Recovery Group (CRG). Has there ever been a misnomer like it? You might as well call the Luftwaffe the East End Recovery Group. These guys are the cowboy builders of the pandemic. They turn your leaking pipe into a collapsed central heating system, then tell you only they can fix it.

In case they’ve forgotten, Mark and Steve & Co spent most of late autumn and early winter raging noisy public war against any form of lockdown or restrictions – and Boris Johnson listened to them. So when are such people going to take some responsibility for the fact that the schools have ended up having to close because in the end infection was so out of control there was nothing else for it?

When are the “Covid Recovery Group” going to take some responsibility for the fact their science-free objections to taking action in timely fashion means we all have to pay a heftier and lengthier price at the back end of the lockdown instead? The answer, of course, is never. Because what they wield is power without responsibility. They can seemingly make the prime minister do what they want, at least until things have gone so tits up that he has no choice but to U-turn. Yet despite being exactly the type who always bang on about people taking personal responsibility, they never take any themselves. Taking personal responsibility is for the likes of the poor and the obese.

And so it is that we have to listen to people such as Steve Baker posturing that they don’t like the predictable and predicted effects of precisely the things they spent October, November and December demanding. Come to that, what is Steve Baker even doing on a Zoom feed? He should be standing in the freezing cold on docks offering to fill in forms for fishermen about to lose their businesses thanks to another one of his brainwaves.

Which brings us to the conclusion that the new awkward squad is largely the same as the old awkward squad. Many of the personnel from the Brextremist European Research Group (ERG) have simply migrated to the CRG, and the rest of us are once more dragged along for the ride. The UK’s decades-long subservience to this relatively small number of Conservative wingnuts recalls nothing so much as Kingsley Amis’s relationship to his own libido. “For 50 years,” he reflected, “it was like being chained to an idiot.”

 

[beorhthelm]

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have you ever given any thought into why the group you call the Tory working class choose to reject alternatives?

 

[WATFORD zero]

have you ever given any thought into why the group you call the Tory working class choose to reject alternatives?

I have, and I think it's probably primarily down to the huge amounts of investment that goes into grooming them (whilst giving excellent returns) together with just a little bit of naivety

I would guess the only long term answer at an individual level is to make sure you're the right side of the dividing line

 

[nicko31]

I have, and I think it's probably primarily down to the huge amounts of investment that goes into grooming them (whilst giving excellent returns) together with just a little bit of naivety

I would guess the only long term answer at an individual level is to make sure you're the right side of the dividing line

Interesting that Ofcom has granted two new news licences for freeview

a) GB News - Andrew Neil, Julie Hartley-B already recruited, you can see the way that is heading

b) Murdoch...Guardian TV is won't be!!

It does seem the grooming operation on the public is going to moving into another gear.

Rumours also of Paul Dacre also becoming chair of Ofcom (can this really be true)

The UK is broken and could well break up too. Will this kind of stuff bring the country together?

 

[beorhthelm]

Interesting that Ofcom has granted two new news licences for freeview

a) GB News - Andrew Neil, Julie Hartley-B already recruited, you can see the way that is heading

b) Murdoch...Guardian TV is won't be!!

begs the question why groups with alternative views arent applying for licences.

 

[Baker lite]

Interesting that Ofcom has granted two new news licences for freeview

a) GB News - Andrew Neil, Julie Hartley-B already recruited, you can see the way that is heading

b) Murdoch...Guardian TV is won't be!!

It does seem the grooming operation on the public is going to moving into another gear.

Rumours also of Paul Dacre also becoming chair of Ofcom (can this really be true)

The UK is broken and could well break up too. Will this kind of stuff bring the country together?

Looks like GB news is going to be essential viewing for anyone wanting to avoid the left wing bluster and tripe being spewed out by the BBC, ITN and SKY. Really looking forward to it [emoji1303]


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[Chicken Run]

Interesting that Ofcom has granted two new news licences for freeview

a) GB News - Andrew Neil, Julie Hartley-B already recruited, you can see the way that is heading

b) Murdoch...Guardian TV is won't be!!

It does seem the grooming operation on the public is going to moving into another gear.

Rumours also of Paul Dacre also becoming chair of Ofcom (can this really be true)

The UK is broken and could well break up too. Will this kind of stuff bring the country together?

That’s my sleep this evening ruined....


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[WATFORD zero]

have you ever given any thought into why the group you call the Tory working class choose to reject alternatives?

I have, and I think it's probably primarily down to the huge amounts of investment that goes into grooming them (whilst giving excellent returns) together with just a little bit of naivety

I would guess the only long term answer at an individual level is to make sure you're the right side of the dividing line

begs the question why groups with alternative views arent applying for licences.

Looks like GB news is going to be essential viewing for anyone wanting to avoid the left wing bluster and tripe being spewed out by the BBC, ITN and SKY. Really looking forward to it [emoji1303]

That’s my sleep this evening ruined....

Case rests m'lud

 

[nicko31]

Looks like GB news is going to be essential viewing for anyone wanting to avoid the left wing bluster and tripe being spewed out by the BBC, ITN and SKY. Really looking forward to it [emoji1303]


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I guess if you compare Ofcom regulated content of BBC, ITN, Sky etc against a print media which is 80% right wing they will appear left wing and they appear right wing if you compared them with the Guardian

The core difference is opinion versus fact based media. GB News will need to behave of course and under current rules a Fox News style approach isn't permitted. Well not yet...

 

[Randy McNob]

I have, and I think it's probably primarily down to the huge amounts of investment that goes into grooming them (whilst giving excellent returns) together with just a little bit of naivety

I would guess the only long term answer at an individual level is to make sure you're the right side of the dividing line

It's also useful to have it confirmed on this forum that the gaslighting works a treat, why else would anyone say the Tories are great look how well they are polling on the day we surpassed 100,000 deaths?

 

[WATFORD zero]

It's also useful to have it confirmed on this forum that the gaslighting works a treat, why else would anyone say the Tories are great look how well they are polling on the day we surpassed 100,000 deaths?

I have to say that in my experience, you can teach an old dog new tricks but once a cap doffer, always a cap doffer

And knowing JCFG/POTG? loves a Kinks track

 

[Baker lite]

It's also useful to have it confirmed on this forum that the gaslighting works a treat, why else would anyone say the Tories are great look how well they are polling on the day we surpassed 100,000 deaths?

Ultimately these tragic deaths are down to China, but can we even begin to imagine how bad the situation would be if a Labour Government was returned in 2019? I shudder to think how bad it would be now.
In more positive news, the Government are responsible for over three and a have million people in the UK recovering from a virus China unleashed on the world.


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[El Presidente]

Ultimately these tragic deaths are down to China

No they are not, no more than recent deaths are due to the UK after the British mutation arose.

 

[Baker lite]

No they are not, no more than recent deaths are due to the UK after the British mutation arose.

China is responsible for this worldwide pandemic, it is either a result a biological weapon escaping or perhaps eating animals whilst still alive.
The Kent mutation was discovered by British scientists, it most likely started in Northern France. All virus’s mutate,The UK, Unlike the totalitarian regime in Beijing alerted the world straight away.


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[El Presidente]

China is responsible for this worldwide pandemic, it is either a result a biological weapon escaping or perhaps eating animals whilst still alive.
The Kent mutation was discovered by British scientists, it most likely started in Northern France. All virus’s mutate,The UK, Unlike the totalitarian regime in Beijing alerted the world straight away.


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Biological weapon...no evidence to support that
Eating animals whilst alive...no evidence to support that
British mutation started in France...no evidence to support that

 

[Baker lite]

Biological weapon...no evidence to support that
Eating animals whilst alive...no evidence to support that
British mutation started in France...no evidence to support that

Just my opinions like.
In more positive news though,over 3.5 million people have recovered from the Wuflu in the Uk, that has to be great news.


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[El Presidente]

Just my opinions like.
In more positive news though,over 3.5 million people have recovered from the Wuflu in the Uk, that has to be great news.


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Is the Wuflu the virus that has killed over 100,000 of people in this country?

 

[sparkie]

Biological weapon...no evidence to support that
Eating animals whilst alive...no evidence to support that
British mutation started in France...no evidence to support that

If anyone thinks it is a biological weapon - and it cannot be completely 100% ruled out - then you really have to expand your thinking and realise it would be much more...

It would actually be a biological hybrid weapon : ie a combination of the virus attack and an anti-vaxxing disinformation attack. Modern warfare has moved on.

I stress the first word I used : 'If'.

 

[Baker lite]

Is the Wuflu the virus that has killed over 100,000 of people in this country?

A variant of the WuFlu is certainly contributing factor, also the usual winter pressures we experience every year in the UK. Remember the beast from the East 3 years ago? 50k flu deaths that winter. I’d be very interested to see the winter flu deaths for the last year?
Remember these are deaths within 28 days of a positive covid test... not of.


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[El Presidente]

A variant of the WuFlu is certainly contributing factor, also the usual winter pressures we experience every year in the UK. Remember the beast from the East 3 years ago? 50k flu deaths that winter. I’d be very interested to see the winter flu deaths for the last year?
Remember these are deaths within 28 days of a positive covid test... not of.


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You've still not explained what WuFlu is.