Imagine going through all this only to find out he doesn't clap the fans, when an unused substitute.
Oh the humanity.
Oh the humanity.
[Albion] Julio Enciso - Paraguay’s new wonder kid (Signed 17/06/2022)
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Can't think of one, no.
Change at Barnham
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Has there been any mention of if he currently speaks any English?
If he stays at Brighton he'll have Bruno, Sanchez, Sarmiento, Caiceido, Mac Allister, Alzate to help him settle into a new city and culture.
Rather that ship him out to a Championship side or abroad I can see him staying around The Amex and Lancing until January when a further decision would be taken based on what is best for him.
That seems to be the most common sense approach, but what do I know? (zero)
The Albion shipped Caiciedo out to Belgium for both regular game time and to learn English because we were told that English is widely spoken in Belgian clubs dressing rooms. With Undav and Kitoma departing USG, I'm sure the Paraguay Pup would be a welcome addition to their attack.
Particularly if he is on the borderline for UK work permit points.
If he stays at Brighton he'll have Bruno, Sanchez, Sarmiento, Caiceido, Mac Allister, Alzate to help him settle into a new city and culture.
Rather that ship him out to a Championship side or abroad I can see him staying around The Amex and Lancing until January when a further decision would be taken based on what is best for him.
That seems to be the most common sense approach, but what do I know? (zero)
The Albion shipped Caiciedo out to Belgium for both regular game time and to learn English because we were told that English is widely spoken in Belgian clubs dressing rooms. With Undav and Kitoma departing USG, I'm sure the Paraguay Pup would be a welcome addition to their attack.
Particularly if he is on the borderline for UK work permit points.
Withdean11
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Alzate - Caicedo
Sarmiento - Ale Mac - Enciso
Sarmiento - Ale Mac - Enciso
The South American dream midfield.
Can't see that happening as the Paraguayan league is as shit as it gets from a work permit perspective.
USG is probably a good guess.
There was a little feature with Bruno on the club site very recently talking about the group of Spanish speaking players at the club and how they help the new guys fit in and learn English. Could see that being a positive factor for future Spanish speaking players when they are thinking of joining.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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As I said before if he doesn’t get the 15 points we will apply for an exemption to the points based system based on the fact he’s a promising youth player. The fact he’s playing full international football at 18 and is likely to be only a few points short of the 15 required, it should make the exemption almost certain to be granted.
Papa Lazarou
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Possibly the only tangible Brexit benefit? (Loosening of the work permit rules for non-EU players)
Blue Valkyrie
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Not really because Belgium managed to have looser rules on overseas players.
Papa Lazarou
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Damn. I thought I had one there. Back to searching.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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The rules were always set by the FA. As a part of having to re-write the rules as EU players no longer automatically qualified for work permits they gave more weight to the continental competitions in South American, meaning they got the same points as the Champions League etc. This does mean it is easier to get to 15 points for players playing in South America if they are playing at the highest level over there.
However in the case of Enciso the talented youth player exemption process has always existed.
Live by the sea
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Machiavelli
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If he didn't already speak English, it's worth adding that he nearly signed in January and, even though he didn't, he would have been aware of our continued interest, so seems likely that he might have gone on a crash course.
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This is from a profile/interview last summer >>
"Off the pitch, Enciso has been busy learning English in anticipation of a move to Europe further down the line."
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/enc...g-most-valuable-born-in-2004/view/news/388444
No as that was always set by individual states anyway. That's why if the player can't obtain a UK permit the Albion send them to Belgium as Belgium, despite being in the EU, has laxer requirements for footballers than the UK.
However it did mean we can't sign promising European players until they're 18 now (so with post Brexit rules we wouldn't have been able to sign big Bobby Sanchez the way we did).
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severnside gull
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At least we get cheaper fish
No-one said anything about cheaper fish…….just happier ones
Pavilionaire
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I see that the 3rd Champions League qualifying round fixtures are on 2nd / 9th August. Genk were in the same position a year ago and played their first friendly on 3rd July 2021, so you'd expect pre-season to have started at least 2 weeks before that.
I wouldn't be surprised if part of the reason the Albion have moved quickly is so the player will be available for USG in time for their pre-season, which will start much earlier than the Albions. They've lost Mitoma and Undav so are currently well short on attacking players. This could mean that both Enciso and Kozlowski - if he remains there - will get decent game time.
I wouldn't be surprised if part of the reason the Albion have moved quickly is so the player will be available for USG in time for their pre-season, which will start much earlier than the Albions. They've lost Mitoma and Undav so are currently well short on attacking players. This could mean that both Enciso and Kozlowski - if he remains there - will get decent game time.
nwgull
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I've genuinely got one: VAT on women's sanitary products has been reduced to 0% since January 2021; but when we were in the EU, the minimum rate we could apply was 5%. It's quite ironic given that the demographic that this tax saving of 10p per box of tampons benefits - under 45s women - were 63% pro EU.