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BigGully

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Sep 8, 2006
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Just think its a bit of an odd thing to say about somebody.

Probably an 'in' joke, but your first comment indicated that your view was that this might invalidate his ( unlikely ) England captaincy.

Why you would find this is any way offensive or even relevant to anything worthwhile, let alone invalidating his captaincy chances ?

This is the problem, it unrelenting.
 






Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
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Brighton
I doubt whether that is true.

Of course they would differ due to their own cultures and the background of the youngsters they recruit, but I would suspect that they recruit from their own 'working class' environments, just as we do and there behaviour is likely to reflect that.

I would suspect that both Spain and Italy have their own 'wronguns' too.

Professional footballers are decent people, maybe with a few exceptions.

I think it actually has something in part to do with a very deep, subtle ingrained homophobia we have in this country. As Ricky Gervais said, at school the "one thing you couldn't be was gay" "can't be gay, rule one".

I don't think the working classes of Spain and Italy necessarily have that same viewpoint. I think there is more of an appreciation of art and culture, and you're not seen as a "poof" or a "bender" for being interested in such things.
 
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Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
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Brighton
I'm sorry, you cannot compare someone involved in one bad incident to JOHN F***ING TERRY. His rap sheet is longer than The Great Wall of China.
 




Herne Hill Seagull

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Jul 10, 2003
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Should never have had the captaincy this time round anyway, but he's been pre-judged before a criminal trial, which is folly. What happened to the premise, enshrined in our legal system but apparently not in the FA's disciplinary system, of innocence until proven guilt?
 




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I think it actually has something in part to do with a very deep, subtle ingrained homophobia we have in this country. As Ricky Gervais said, at school the "one thing you couldn't be was gay" "can't be gay, rule one".

I don't think the working classes of Spain and Italy necessarily have that same viewpoint. I think there is more of an appreciation of art and culture, and you're not seen as a "poof" or a "bender" for being interested in such things.
Cough, splutter !! Are you serious ???
 




BigGully

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Sep 8, 2006
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I think it actually has something in part to do with an ingrained homophobia. As Ricky Gervais said, at school the "one thing you couldn't be was gay" "can't be gay".

I don't think the working classes of Spain and Italy necessarily have that same viewpoint. I think there is more of an appreciation of art and culture, and you're not seen as a "poof" for being interested in such things.


Maldini is a red herring, his father was a successful professional footballer and the national team manager.

Maldini enjoyed an extremely privileged upbringing, so hardly a fair representation of Italian footballers.

Your link between, thick English footballers and homophobia at school, has thrown me a bit, I just dont get that.

I think you have an exaggerated view on the sophistication and tolerance of both Spain and Italy, especially when comparing it with England.

You havent forgotten the racists chants by spanish supporters when they played England have you ?
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,479
Brighton
Maldini is a red herring, his father was a successful professional footballer and the national team manager.

Maldini enjoyed an extremely privileged upbringing, so hardly a fair representation of Italian footballers.

Your link between, thick English footballers and homophobia at school, has thrown me a bit, I just dont get that.

I think you have an exaggerated view on the sophistication and tolerance of both Spain and Italy, especially when comparing it with England.

You havent forgotten the racists chants by spanish supporters when they played England have you ?

No, but my point remains that you will see French, Spanish, Italian players quote literature or speak very poetically in interviews, whilst the same behaviour in England (see Graeme Le Saux) would have you branded a "poof".
 


Common as Mook

Not Posh as Fook
Jul 26, 2004
5,642
No, but my point remains that you will see French, Spanish, Italian players quote literature or speak very poetically in interviews, whilst the same behaviour in England (see Graeme Le Saux) would have you branded a "poof".

You have a point.

Franck Ribery often intertwines reading the works of Camus and Satre with hammering 15 year old prostitutes.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,479
Brighton
You have a point.

Franck Ribery often intertwines reading the works of Camus and Satre with hammering 15 year old prostitutes.

Yup, giving one example of one person perfectly illustrates my viewpoint. Good work. Name me a SINGLE English player who freely admits to going to the theater on a Friday night. ONE.
 




Common as Mook

Not Posh as Fook
Jul 26, 2004
5,642
Gianluigi Lentini was often spotted in the Uffizi in Florence when he wasn't shagging Toto Schillachi's wife and wrapping his Porsche round a tree.

Oliver Kahn used to drink coffee in Munich square reading the works of Kafka. The 21 year old stripper he left his wife for would gobble him off under the table at the same time.


Football is a game that people get involved in from a very young age before they have a chance to be "world-wise". It doesn't matter what country you come from, every country will have those that f*** up. It's human nature.
 


Common as Mook

Not Posh as Fook
Jul 26, 2004
5,642
Yup, giving one example of one person perfectly illustrates my viewpoint. Good work. Name me a SINGLE English player who freely admits to going to the theater on a Friday night. ONE.

Joey Barton
 


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