Sorry to answer your question with a question, but why is that even relevant? Surely an issue is an issue regardless of ethnicity.
Think of the following sentences, which are deemed positive or negative by today's societal standards. It's contentious, they should all be equally acceptable or unacceptable, but in reality they're not.
I'm proud to be black.
I'm proud to be white.
I'm proud to be gay.
I'm proud to be straight.
I'm proud to be a woman.
I'm proud to be a man.
Are you not contracted to Auntie?
A slight aside but all of those things are accidents of birth - I've never understood how anyone, ever, could be proud of something that, upon which, they had zero influence. They did not exist when the events happened that made these things fact. Just saying....
A slight aside but all of those things are accidents of birth - I've never understood how anyone, ever, could be proud of something that, upon which, they had zero influence. They did not exist when the events happened that made these things fact. Just saying....
Quite. I am 85% in agreement with you. I can recall a red faced bonehead ranting at me for not being 'proud to be English' nearly 30 years ago. I didn't really understand what me meant, to be fair, for the reason you explain. Very very pleased to win a fotball match, sure. That said, perhaps contrarily (moi?) I feel pride about The Albion - because of the amazing achievement, from the state we were in in 1998, through the wilderness years, the great cameraderie I have had (mostly with folk on the old Mailing List), the slow rise to where we are now, the wonderful stadium and sense of togetherness. Chris. Yes, pride. Give me a moment while I get that speck of dust out of my eye.
And I have pride in England - a wonderful place to live, amazing freedoms and opportunities, amazing people. But I don't feel pride in an England football win, per se. If we win the world cup, or lose with dignity, then I may feel some pride. If it is earnt. But 'England football right or wrong' isn't a source of pride for me. Also, exultation and euphoria trump pride for me, any day. Let's not forget the old saying 'pride before a fall' either. And after that comes shame. Stop hunting for pride and you avoid the (inevitable) shame.
another toby comment from a snowflake we are english so that makes us lions and what do you call a group of lions its a pride innit which if you went to the univercity of life you would know so up yours leftie
regards
DR
I don't disagree with him, but people who look for examples of "political correctness gone mad" where it hasn't, also piss me off.
another toby comment from a snowflake we are english so that makes us lions and what do you call a group of lions its a pride innit which if you went to the univercity of life you would know so up yours leftie
regards
DR
Quite. I am 85% in agreement with you. I can recall a red faced bonehead ranting at me for not being 'proud to be English' nearly 30 years ago. I didn't really understand what me meant, to be fair, for the reason you explain. Very very pleased to win a fotball match, sure. That said, perhaps contrarily (moi?) I feel pride about The Albion - because of the amazing achievement, from the state we were in in 1998, through the wilderness years, the great cameraderie I have had (mostly with folk on the old Mailing List), the slow rise to where we are now, the wonderful stadium and sense of togetherness. Chris. Yes, pride. Give me a moment while I get that speck of dust out of my eye.
And I have pride in England - a wonderful place to live, amazing freedoms and opportunities, amazing people. But I don't feel pride in an England football win, per se. If we win the world cup, or lose with dignity, then I may feel some pride. If it is earnt. But 'England football right or wrong' isn't a source of pride for me. Also, exultation and euphoria trump pride for me, any day. Let's not forget the old saying 'pride before a fall' either. And after that comes shame. Stop hunting for pride and you avoid the (inevitable) shame.
I can only imagine Afua Hirsch's reaction to watching that...
Total revenge for the waffle she comes out with.
White males have been oppressed as much as anyone throughout history.
Go on then, give us a few examples?
Well there was a little thing called the holocaust, remember that?
Firstly it wouldn't be a lawsuit it was a complaint to the Police, now thats such a convulted approach and seeing It was deleted I decided to let it slide.
NSC wouldn't be liable for 3rd party actions, unless an organiser say an Admin or a Moderator. Thats why you are happy to use Clamp as your attack dog, someone who is obviously mentally unstable.
He runs his mouth and you do nothing untill theres a response then you can pretend to be "even haanded", which reflects what a weasel Oh and trust me any of his shit goes IRL to an employer I would expect legal action to follow from whoever his target was.
On a Sunday? Heathen.
Foie Gras.why dont you go suck the shit out of a ducks arse with a straw? Given your mental state you can easily convince yourself its Fois Gras.
Foie Gras.
You couldn't make up how shit at putting people down you actually are.*
*Go on, correct the grammar. [emoji182][emoji182][emoji182]
On a Sunday? Heathen.