Johnson's Brexit - BRINO, or No deal

[beorhthelm]

Barnier said it's "prêt au four"

very good. cooking up tarte au poisson

 

[pastafarian]

I see Johnson has re-opened talks even though the EU hasn't moved

So what's it to be, BRINO or extension ? I'm starting to think extension may be his only way to try and save face. 'We have negotiated a free trade deal, but we going to continue negotiating a few outstanding points (Fisheries, Level Playing Field, ECJ primacy, Irish border, Rules and regulations etc etc') and paying the EU in the interim.

But it won't be an extension it will be a deal. And the normal idiots will lap it up the same way as the bus, the oven ready deal, the Australia deal

“So what's it to be, BRINO or extension ?”

I cant see a BRINO option (membership of THE EU customs union and members of the single market) as a negotiated position for the end of the transition period at all. I know its what you voted and believed would happen in your silly poll but I still cant see it as even possible even though you do.
I also cant see an extension to the transition period. That ship has already sailed. An extension should have been agreed months ago if it were to happen. Bit odd you didn’t realise this. I thought everyone knew this.
In conclusion then, both your options, BRINO (membership of THE EU customs union and members of the single market) for when the transition period ends and extension to the transition period appear pipe dreams of your own making.



Any idea when you think your beliefs will become reality?
Time is running out for your fantasy BRINO at the end of the transition period or extension to the transition period dreams.

Tick Tock

Your predictions now are funnier than when you predicted (after the referendum) that we wouldnt actually end our membership and leave but would remain members instead.

 

[WATFORD zero]

“So what's it to be, BRINO or extension ?”

I cant see a BRINO option (membership of THE EU customs union and members of the single market) as a negotiated position for the end of the transition period at all. I know its what you voted and believed would happen in your silly poll but I still cant see it as even possible even though you do.
I also cant see an extension to the transition period. That ship has already sailed. An extension should have been agreed months ago if it were to happen. Bit odd you didn’t realise this. I thought everyone knew this.
In conclusion then, both your options, BRINO (membership of THE EU customs union and members of the single market) for when the transition period ends and extension to the transition period appear pipe dreams of your own making.

Any idea when you think your beliefs will become reality?
Time is running out for your fantasy BRINO at the end of the transition period or extension to the transition period dreams.

Tick Tock

Your predictions now are funnier than when you predicted (after the referendum) that we wouldnt actually end our membership and leave but would remain members instead.

Well there are still options. If Johnson's friend Trump gets in, he may still think he can go 'No deal' with no tarmac, staff, infrastructure or systems in place. He can always claim he has 'got a deal' where all the outstanding points continue to be negotiated, and we continue to pay into and trade on EU terms but what sort of idiot would believe that was anything but an extension

Or he could just fold and go BRINO, giving away fishing rights, level playing field, ECJ primacy, Irish border etc, so which did you vote for 4.5 years ago ? These countdowns are certainly getting more and more exciting each time, aren't they

But there is good news. I see that 10 months after we left the EU, we finally got our first free trade deal agreed. Not quite what you predicted and only another 39 free trade deals to replace in the next 67 days, to simply stay where trading where we are with the rest of the world (regardless of what we do with the EU), but it's still good news isn't it.

Of course you can discriminate on goods in a FTA if thats what you want to negotiate, Japan can indeed strike a better trade deal with the UK on goods than it has with the EU, there is no provision that forbids Japan from doing this. And dont forget most of MFN clauses that are included in FTAs are concerning services and investment, which again Japan can strike better arrangements with The UK than it currently has with the EU. The MFN clauses in current EU deals do not forbid Japan from striking better deals on services and investment.
The discriminatory nature is with regard to the claims Japan can be forbidden from striking better trade deals, you cannot discriminate against a country in this manner.

So did we get this better free trade deal that you predicted. Or did we get one where the Agricultural Export quotas are defined by what the EU can't be arsed to take up and where we had to agree to the same State Aid rules as defined in the EU/Japan agreement, (the ones we are still insisting that we will not agree to with the EU )

But despite all that, I do appreciate this tradition of you taking time out from your all night porn and puff sessions 'nuts deep in Battlefield 1 with your boys' to sign onto this account and make a fool of yourself each time there's a countdown to something

So with 4 and a half years gone, there's only 67 days to go until you find out what you voted for, and it will definitely, definitely happen this time, won't it

Tick tock indeed

well dont do a Norway option,dont do a Canada option and dont do a WTO option

lets have a bespoke British option,

exactly what the brexit campaign says on the tin

Brexit propose to trade with the EU and trade globally free from Brussels interference including with our commonwealth friends.

If we left i dont believe successive labour and tory governments will sell all worker rights down the river as some claim,i dont believe successive labour and tory governments will abandon all environmental concerns and we will suddenly become stig of the dump. I dont buy into the rhetoric this country is so useless we have to hold hands with europe to achieve anything,i seem to have much more faith in the businesses ,workers and leaders in this country to forge trade links and continue to innovate than all the doomonger leaders in the remain camp combined.
I do wish they would stop running the country down,its totally unfounded.

I really don't think there are sufficient slaphead emojis on the Internet

 

[Randy McNob]

“So what's it to be, BRINO or extension ?”

I cant see a BRINO option (membership of THE EU customs union and members of the single market) as a negotiated position for the end of the transition period at all. I know its what you voted and believed would happen in your silly poll but I still cant see it as even possible even though you do.
I also cant see an extension to the transition period. That ship has already sailed. An extension should have been agreed months ago if it were to happen. Bit odd you didn’t realise this. I thought everyone knew this.
In conclusion then, both your options, BRINO (membership of THE EU customs union and members of the single market) for when the transition period ends and extension to the transition period appear pipe dreams of your own making.



Any idea when you think your beliefs will become reality?
Time is running out for your fantasy BRINO at the end of the transition period or extension to the transition period dreams.

Tick Tock

Your predictions now are funnier than when you predicted (after the referendum) that we wouldnt actually end our membership and leave but would remain members instead.

If Johnson + UKIP had agreed a deal by now, which they promised and were elected to do, we wouldn't be having this debate. We should be united in our anger. Or do Brexiters prefer limbo and uncertainty? Brexiters always talk about democracy and accountability but seem OK if Johnson + Co ride roughshod over it

 

[pastafarian]

Well there are still options. If Johnson's friend Trump gets in, he may still think he can go 'No deal' with no tarmac, staff, infrastructure or systems in place. He can always claim he has 'got a deal' where all the outstanding points continue to be negotiated, and we continue to pay into and trade on EU terms but what sort of idiot would believe that was anything but an extension

Or he could just fold and go BRINO, giving away fishing rights, level playing field, ECJ primacy, Irish border etc, so which did you vote for 4.5 years ago ? These countdowns are certainly getting more and more exciting each time, aren't they

But there is good news. I see that 10 months after we left the EU, we finally got our first free trade deal agreed. Not quite what you predicted and only another 39 free trade deals to replace in the next 67 days, to simply stay where trading where we are with the rest of the world (regardless of what we do with the EU), but it's still good news isn't it.



So did we get this better free trade deal that you predicted. Or did we get one where the Agricultural Export quotas are defined by what the EU can't be arsed to take up and where we had to agree to the same State Aid rules as defined in the EU/Japan agreement, (the ones we are still insisting that we will not agree to with the EU )

But despite all that, I do appreciate this tradition of you taking time out from your all night porn and puff sessions 'nuts deep in Battlefield 1 with your boys' to sign onto this account and make a fool of yourself each time there's a countdown to something

So with 4 and a half years gone, there's only 67 days to go until you find out what you voted for, and it will definitely, definitely happen this time, won't it

Tick tock indeed





I really don't think there are sufficient slaphead emojis on the Internet

You carry on believing if you want to that when the transition period ends Boris will have negotiated being members of the single market and members of The EU customs union (BRINO) as the future relationship.
Its dead funny

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

You carry on believing if you want to that when the transition period ends Boris will have negotiated being members of the single market and members of The EU customs union (BRINO) as the future relationship.
Its dead funny

He's such a silly Billy
Regards
DF

 

[nicko31]

You carry on believing if you want to that when the transition period ends Boris will have negotiated being members of the single market and members of The EU customs union (BRINO) as the future relationship.
Its dead funny

Brino or no Brino, remember what you were promised. The blonde clown is doing well isn't he?

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

Further to Pasta's contribution, for 'sailed' read 'sunk'. A bit like the economy, really.

I also cant see an extension to the transition period. That ship has already sailed

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

Brino or no Brino, remember what you were promised. The blonde clown is doing well isn't he?

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It's good to revisit this every now and then to remind us of just what a disaster - even measured against their own objectives - this has been.

 

[nicko31]

It's good to revisit this every now and then to remind us of just what a disaster - even measured against their own objectives - this has been.

1, 4 and 7 are my favourites, an epic fail

 

[vegster]

It's good to revisit this every now and then to remind us of just what a disaster - even measured against their own objectives - this has been.

The only one left that hasn't fallen apart yet is No. 2...thats due to fall apart Jan 2nd.

 

[Randy McNob]

1, 4 and 7 are my favourites, an epic fail

Why aren't Brexiters angry about this?

 

[WATFORD zero]

Why aren't Brexiters angry about this?

Because any Brexiteer who is capable of reading that has gone into hiding (a whole lot of them setting up new accounts), to try and distance themselves from their stupid posts on the Brexit thread over the last few years. The penny has finally dropped with them and they won't be back (unless it's to lie and claim they never voted Brexit)

And the couple that are left on this or the Brexit thread, are incapable of reading those points, let alone debating them, so just keep to the moronic one-liners

So, some have finally come to the realisation that they have been stupid and got stitched up and some haven't. I think that about covers it.

After years of trying to explain to my children that not all Brexiteers were stupid, it seems my kids were right all along

 

[nicko31]

Why aren't Brexiters angry about this?

Would be good if some on here could answer the question, most have fled long before Brexit ended in the Bear Pit.

If I'd been so badly let down I'd be pissed.

For me things more or less going as I expected back in 2016, its an act of self harm. Few winners...

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

Because any Brexiteer who is capable of reading that has gone into hiding (a whole lot of them setting up new accounts), to try and distance themselves from their stupid posts on the Brexit thread over the last few years. The penny has finally dropped with them and they won't be back (unless it's to lie and claim they never voted Brexit)

[MENTION=17103]Mo Gosfield[/MENTION] has gone quiet down here

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Check change go , it's happening
Regards
DF

 

[The Clamp]

Check change go , it's happening
Regards
DF

The only small piece of happiness I get from Brexit is that you are going to be absolutely ****ed.

 

[daveinplzen]

Check change go , it's happening
Regards
DF

Get, A, Job.

Nobody suspects thats going to happen.

 

[rogersix]

Check change go , it's happening
Regards
DF

get a job, filth

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

All the usual suspects pissing into the wind , Marvalous scenes
Regards
DF