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[Politics] Johnson Enquiry - The poll

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Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
58,792
hassocks
Corbyn would have locked down earlier in spring 2020 and autumn 2020, not to mention probably wouldn’t have done “Eat Out to Help Out” and dumped a load of COVID patients in nursing homes.
The care home scandal was partly down to sage advice, as was when the first lockdown came.
 




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,581
Gods country fortnightly
Got the evidence for this?

Not O'Brien's opinion, solid facts?
Just wait for the enquiry we need can re-live Johnson's missed cobra meetings, super spreader events, masks denials, care home catastrophes. and more...

He was the worse PM to have at the worst time and we were so unprepared having used up all our oxygen with our self imposed, self harm Brexit tandrum...
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,481
Sussex by the Sea
Just wait for the enquiry we need can re-live Johnson's missed cobra meetings, super spreader events, masks denials, care home catastrophes. and more...

He was the worse PM to have at the worst time and we were so unprepared having spent years with our self imposed Brexit tandrum...
You sound like a Tory MP.....'just wait for the results of the enquiry'.
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,174
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
I remember Johnson being in the West Stand at Twickenham shaking hands with the other toffs before England v Wales, the same day Ireland v Italy in Dublin had been cancelled by the Irish government. A month later Johnson was in hospital with Covid-19.

Still, he got all the big decisions right and was only trying his best etc, etc.
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
20,562
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Just wait for the enquiry we need can re-live Johnson's missed cobra meetings, super spreader events, masks denials, care home catastrophes. and more...

He was the worse PM to have at the worst time and we were so unprepared having used up all our oxygen with our self imposed, self harm Brexit tandrum...
Corbyn also would likely have exercised the option of delaying the end of the Brexit transition by a year to deal with COVID (an offer made by the EU), a decision we have found out this week Johnson refused to do and which directly impacted our ability to deal with the pandemic because Government was too preoccupied with Brexit to deal withCovid at the start.
 




Wokeworrier

Active member
Aug 7, 2021
334
West sussex/travelling
Corbyn would have locked down earlier in spring 2020 and autumn 2020, not to mention probably wouldn’t have done “Eat Out to Help Out” and dumped a load of COVID patients in nursing homes.
Of course he would ... Is that the fella who couldn't even tackle anti semitism in his own party and deemed unfit to be a Labour MP let alone a PM?
 








jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
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Oct 17, 2008
14,571
johnson is destroying the dream of man?

you've finally let go then, good to see you back in sorts
Johnson is the dream of two men, Boris and Stanley. And a nightmare for everyone else
 




rogersix

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2014
8,202
Just wait for the enquiry we need can re-live Johnson's missed cobra meetings, super spreader events, masks denials, care home catastrophes. and more...

He was the worse PM to have at the worst time and we were so unprepared having used up all our oxygen with our self imposed, self harm Brexit tandrum...
and austerity sat the nhs on it's arse
 








clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,877
You going to provide evidence for either of these claims ...


... stumbles around searching anti-vaxxer sites.

I think that's unfair. A number of things like that will fall out like that (whether the above is valid or not) and we will be surprised.

However, I'll put money on the country not being prepared after savage cuts to vital services being a major factor.
 




ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,174
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
A week in Tory

A Twitter thread by Russ Jones. Look out for the description of Michael Fabricant. I genuinely laughed out liud


'The Shetland pony of the apocalypse' to describe Priti Patel was just as good. 🤣
 


Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
10,489
'The Shetland pony of the apocalypse' to describe Priti Patel was just as good. 🤣
It is staggering that she is being honoured. She should be on the backbenches because she should have been removed from her post following that investigation outcome. Protocol required her to resign to spare Johnson the embarrassment of having to follow protocol himself and remover her. What a tawdry mess.
 




Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
23,695
Brighton
'The Shetland pony of the apocalypse' to describe Priti Patel was just as good. 🤣
And “Jacob Rees-Mogg, Nosferatu attempting to blend in at a Bible Study Meeting” was also unbeatable.

See for yourself:

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Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
58,792
hassocks
You going to provide evidence for either of these claims ...


... stumbles around searching anti-vaxxer sites.
Not sure you know what an anti vaxxer is ?


FT on sage minutes on the delay and why

Minutes from March 13 noted that “SAGE was unanimous that measures seeking to completely suppress spread of Covid-19 will cause a second peak. SAGE advises that it is a near certainty that countries such as China, where heavy suppression is under way, will experience a second peak once measures are relaxed.” They also noted that while Singapore had had an effective contain phase new cases had since appeared.
https://www.ft.com/content/662a0033-61eb-4b1f-b95c-855a9ef8061f


10 days before lockdown - not talking out against mass gatherings.


On March 10, the group’s 14th meeting, it noted that SAGE believed “public gatherings pose a relatively low but not zero public risk. People are more likely to be infected by people they know, not strangers. But it acknowledged the importance of advice in this area and agreed to review it and to look at different types of gatherings/meetings.” SAGE was to reconsider the situation regarding public gatherings at its March 12 meeting. However, there are no minutes for a March 12 meeting provided. Nor does its 15th meeting on March 13 reference any


A member of sage - didn't have the full details

Asked during an interview on BBC TV what regrets he had about the handling of the outbreak, John Edmunds, a member of the government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE), said: “We should have gone into lockdown earlier.”

“The data we were dealing with in the early part of March and our situational awareness was really quite poor so I think it would have been very hard to pull the trigger at that point"
 
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Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
58,792
hassocks
I suspect it will also come down to the utter state of the care sector. Spread by zero hours workers moving from gig to gig to make ends meet.

After a decade of Conservative misrule we were an open target. Impossible to protect the vulnerable.
I'm struggling to find the clip, but one of the sage members, Michael Tidsley I believe?, admitted they had no idea how care homes worked with workers going from site to site.

This was the doubled down in the mass sacking of those who didn't take the vaccine, none wanted to come back when everyone backtracked.
 


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