John Guidetti

[greenfordgull]

Re FFP: I personally think that if you judge its success by universal observance and and enforcement, it will fail. Some clubs will ignore it and take the prem pay day others will try and wriggle out of it with generous sponsorship deals subsidiary companies outside the regulated area (as Forrest are doing with their TV rights deal from their owner, and Man City are doing setting up New york City, whose costs are out of reach of the UEFA regulator). All of this will create an financial/ legal industry to outwit the regulator (The FA/Football League/ UEFA). As the task of trying to regulate ALL income AND costs of football clubs is huge. Naturally the Finance/legal people for the clubs will be better resourced than the regulator, and so FFP will often fail, where owners are willing to pay to avoid the scheme. The reality in football it is the cost of players wages (and to a lesser extent transefer and agents fees), that are causing the ever increasing debts for clubs and an inflated costs for fans (the income of most clubs has grown healthly in general for over a 2 decades). A wage cap in each division would go a long way to solve this but there is little prospect of this and little incentive for the the biggest clubs, or anyone working in the higherst echelons of the game to argue for this.

Re Us: I am not sure that we have no chance this year. We are down by Wayne Bridge, Hammond and Dicker in our regular first team squad and have Ujoa and Upson from August as opposed to January. Andrews and Augustien a fair upgrade on Hammond and Dicker and Ward is a decent left back in this League (Bridge was a one off opportunity really last year). We will add a couple more and think we could do very well again. If anything the play off are at least as likely as last time round. I would not be suprised to see Barnes or Kaz go for cash (as Noone did last year) to finance a bigger signing.

Re Guidetti: any other rumours re this he would be a very exciting prospect?!

 

[forumwayseagull]

Very good points made re us and position in comparison to last year... Barber states that budget is better so can see couple more in... And maybe couple out like last year with noone.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Just a personal view I think that we put all our eggs in 1 basket last season for promotion and blew it

I suspect you are right. Gus's talent got us close enough to touch it then his behaviour ruined those chances.

 

[nwgull]

How bloody stupid are you.

Parachute payments are a great idea.

Clubs have like a 50m wage bill. This can't disappear over two months. They also can't prepare for relegation. I.e stoke could be third end of jan and still go down on a 60m wage bill and then you expect them to have a 40m loss the next year?

If the parachute money is a disadvantage all relegated teams would go straight back up which rarely happens and if they do that parachute money for the remaining years gets split to football league clubs.

This is pure jealousy.

I agree with this; we would soon complain if we were promoted this year and parachute payments were scrapped!

As you say they're to pay off contracts and stop relegated clubs going bust. Only West Ham have bounced back out of the last 9 relegated teams.

 

[saafend_seagull]

I agree with this; we would soon complain if we were promoted this year and parachute payments were scrapped!

As you say they're to pay off contracts and stop relegated clubs going bust. Only West Ham have bounced back out of the last 9 relegated teams.

Indeed.

Complete jealousy it's down to. Nothing else.

 

[clippedgull]

Apparently City will loan to us but they want lion share of wages paid which is alot more than we will pay. Still in talks though. Just what I've heard

If I was negotiating with City, I would agree to their demands as long as the guy delivers to a set target and we get promotion. Otherwise they can do one!

We are Brighton and we sign who we want!

 

[Ulloa's Soul Patch]

The name of the thread should have been: Nottingham Forrest and FFP, oh and a small talk about a Swedish guy.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

I'm not gunna say this is definite or not, just thought I would pass on a thing I saw on twitter

https://twitter.com/BHAFCHUB/status/369190469349036032

(Probably bollocks as it is from Twitter, but would be ****ing amazing!)

Twitter said: "Man city accept loan for John Gudietti to Brighton, his response is rumoured to be out by Wednesday."

OK - it's Wednesday - so where is he?

 

[TSB]

Twitter said: "Man city accept loan for John Gudietti to Brighton, his response is rumoured to be out by Wednesday."

OK - it's Wednesday - so where is he?

*Cough* it was absolute bollocks *cough*
When are timescales for deciding ever given or known? And even if they were, made public?

 

[Meade's Ball]

Twitter said: "Man city accept loan for John Gudietti to Brighton, his response is rumoured to be out by Wednesday."

OK - it's Wednesday - so where is he?

Swedish Wednesdays, though, only turn up in leap months, which have 84 days in them, almost all of them depressing Sundays. I expect us to hear something, by my calculations, in mid-November, or Spagglespunk as the Swedes call it.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Swedish Wednesdays, though, only turn up in leap months, which have 84 days in them, almost all of them depressing Sundays. I expect us to hear something, by my calculations, in mid-November, or Spagglespunk as the Swedes call it.

Quite!

 

[Hyperion]

Twitter said: "Man city accept loan for John Gudietti to Brighton, his response is rumoured to be out by Wednesday."

OK - it's Wednesday - so where is he?

His response would be to the club I.e yes or no, but the club would then still need to finalise the deal then make it public, which my not be until next week. This is not a Fifa game

 

[AZ Gull]

If the parachute money is a disadvantage all relegated teams would go straight back up which rarely happens and if they do that parachute money for the remaining years gets split to football league clubs.

I know that this has happened in the past, but in recent years I don't believe this has been the case.

 

[casbom]

So back to Guidetti....where's Neecha! If we do have a choice between the Swedish wonderkid and Becchio, I would probably go for the former. For me Becchio is too similar to Ulloa and we know Ulloa is numero uno, so how much game time would Becchio actually get?

Guidetti for me is different, someone to play off Ulloa in the hole and who will have the freedom to roam (much like Buckkers did on Sat).

Although if I did have the choice, I wouldn't go for either if I thought that McCormack was available...

 

[Trigger]

Guidetti to Forest?

 

[B.W.]

Yes please; very much the sort of player we need.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

His response would be to the club I.e yes or no, but the club would then still need to finalise the deal then make it public, which my not be until next week. This is not a Fifa game

I have no idea what a "Fifa game" is. This bullshitter said his response will be "out" by Wednesday which I took to mean in the public domain. However since this is just made up crap, the only surprise is that a half way sensible NSCer seems to be justifying the info no-show.

 

[Blues Rock DJ]

nsc and bullshitter go together like peaches and cream !

 

[Doc Lynam]

nsc and bullshitter go together like peaches and cream !

Oh but what lovely cream.

 

[Hyperion]

I have no idea what a "Fifa game" is. This bullshitter said his response will be "out" by Wednesday which I took to mean in the public domain. However since this is just made up crap, the only surprise is that a half way sensible NSCer seems to be justifying the info no-show.

1. Best not take take anything on here in any way as being true. The odd one slips through the net of course.
2. If it happens , it happens. Take in your stride.