[Albion] Joel Veltman signs from Ajax in a 3-year deal

[AZ Gull]

Do you think Gyokeres will be in the squad? Always respect your opinions. Matt Clarke is also coming back. This may be tighter than I thought!
Duffy and others may want first team football but I still don’t think anyone will be forced out. I think it will be their choice.

No idea; I haven't seen any of his performances in Germany, but he doesn't seem to have set the place alight. It was interesting that [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] reported that apparently Potter had tried to sign him when he was still at Ostersund, but being good enough for Ostersund and good enough for the Premier League are two very different things. He has two years left on his contract.

If I was a betting man I'd probably have to say he won't be in the squad this autumn, but who knows.

And as for Matt Clarke - who knows how the centre-back situation plays out, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had another year out on loan.

 

[AZ Gull]

Four?

Dunk
Duffy
Webster
Burn
White
Veltman

That’s SIX.


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Clarke makes SEVEN.

And O Hora, Roberts, Ostigard and Dendoncker - so at least 11.

And Kipras Kazukolovas - don't forget Kipras Kazukolovas. If anybody deserves to have a decent career it's that poor lad.

 

[Weststander]

Actually no, because as Joey points out, Alexis Mac Allister will also need to be named.

Oh well.

That would just leave room for a new centre forward, winger and ACM.

 

[Wardy's twin]

BDB does alright.

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As an aside, Dunk was top 10 for passes completed.

Unfortunately a lot of Dunk's passing is around the back , not enough of the long diagonals for me though his pass to Lamptey on Sunday was special.

With regard to BDB it would be interesting to see how many are in the box from corners....

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

To get him for the release clause without Ajax opening it up to higher bids suggests a quid pro quo has happened. Jahanbakhsh or Pröpper to Ajax ?

 

[Stat Brother]

To get him for the release clause without Ajax opening it up to higher bids suggests a quid pro quo has happened. Jahanbakhsh or Pröpper to Ajax ?

It suggests to me:-

'You've given us 19 years of course we won't make leaving difficult'

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

not costing us a lot - CHECK
can play as a full back or right side of a 3 man defence - CHECK (a right-sided Burn)
not slow - CHECK
international - CHECK
experienced - CHECK
leadership potential - CHECK
played at the highest level (Ajax beating RM) with distinction - CHECK

Sounds a Potter signing from heaven!

Won't even speculate at what that means for transfers out though.

One concern - played only 19 times last season - injury? (if so, what?) out of favour?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Whisper it quietly, but I reckon Veltman is our new CAPTAIN, should there be a big defensive outgoing...

 

[Medwayseagull]

not costing us a lot - CHECK
can play as a full back or right side of a 3 man defence - CHECK (a right-sided Burn)
not slow - CHECK
international - CHECK
experienced - CHECK
leadership potential - CHECK
played at the highest level (Ajax beating RM) with distinction - CHECK

Sounds a Potter signing from heaven!

Won't even speculate at what that means for transfers out though.

One concern - played only 19 times last season - injury? (if so, what?) out of favour?

They only played 25 league games in their curtailed season - so not so bad.

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

They only played 25 league games in their curtailed season - so not so bad.

Good news

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Given the pronunciation of his name in those videos, I suggest a nickname of Fuzzy. Or Roofing.

 

[vagabond]

not costing us a lot - CHECK
can play as a full back or right side of a 3 man defence - CHECK (a right-sided Burn)
not slow - CHECK
international - CHECK
experienced - CHECK
leadership potential - CHECK
played at the highest level (Ajax beating RM) with distinction - CHECK

Sounds a Potter signing from heaven!

Won't even speculate at what that means for transfers out though.

One concern - played only 19 times last season - injury? (if so, what?) out of favour?

In addition to the above a ball playing defender, also a GP hallmark.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

To get him for the release clause without Ajax opening it up to higher bids suggests a quid pro quo has happened. Jahanbakhsh or Pröpper to Ajax ?

I might be being a bit dumb here but if the release clause is 900k why would any club pay over that?

 

[Beanstalk]

I might be being a bit dumb here but if the release clause is 900k why would any club pay over that?

There isn't. A release clause is contractual and club's can't negate on this.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

I might be being a bit dumb here but if the release clause is 900k why would any club pay over that?

If 2 clubs meet the release clause, couldn't 1 of them bid more to win the deal ?

 

[Tom Bombadil]

I might be being a bit dumb here but if the release clause is 900k why would any club pay over that?

I would assume any bidding war would benefit the player in the form of higher wages and a bigger singing on fee

 

[Stat Brother]

I might be being a bit dumb here but if the release clause is 900k why would any club pay over that?

The club did well grooming this fella.

I assume it's all well and good having a £900k release clause, but that doesn't stop clubs X, Y & Z over bidding.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

There isn't. A release clause is contractual and club's can't negate on this.

Yeah, thats what I thought.

If 2 clubs meet the release clause, couldn't 1 of them bid more to win the deal ?

But the selling club have to accept any bid that matches the release clause so the player can talk to either club anyway. At least, that's how I understand how release clauses work.

I would assume any bidding war would benefit the player in the form of higher wages and a bigger singing on fee

Yes but that'll happen anyway once the release clause is reached. There's no need to pay over that fee to get the player to talk to the buying club.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Whisper it quietly, but I reckon Veltman is our new CAPTAIN, should there be a big defensive outgoing...

Adam Lallana I'd have thought.

 

[Beanstalk]

Yeah, thats what I thought.

But the selling club have to accept any bid that matches the release clause so the player can talk to either club anyway. At least, that's how I understand how release clauses work.

Yes but that'll happen anyway once the release clause is reached. There's no need to pay over that fee to get the player to talk to the buying club.

Correct. It is a contractually agreed clause that if a club bids at that price, they must accept. There are often stipulations regarding which clubs this applies to. In some cases (probably in this one) it only applies to foreign clubs. I seem to remember reading about a team like City or Liverpool including a clause in the transfer of a player to a Spanish club (minimum release fee clauses are a contractual obligation there) that there needed to be a separate, much higher, release clause set for any bid from Man United.