[Albion] Joe Gomez

[WhingForPresident]

Sorry my finger hit the e as obviously it is raptures But it doesnt alter the fact that if he is deemed not good enough to play against Premiership players by Liverpool he shouldnt by foremost in our wishes.

The "FACT"

Lukaku, De Bruyne, Kane and plenty of other top players had to go out on loan at Gomez's age to kickstart their careers.

Would you be against us taking Tomori back on loan for the season using this logic?

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

When has he been deemed by Liverpool not good enough ?

He hasn't, sadly for them they haven't got the knowledge and scouting ability of our very own BG, maybe we should drop them a line and let them know he's no good, save them embarrassing themselves.

 

[dazzer6666]

My third whoosh of the day, let alone ever. No one has even noticed the Barry Norman one.

Yeah we have

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[BensGrandad]

He hasn't, sadly for them they haven't got the knowledge and scouting ability of our very own BG, maybe we should drop them a line and let them know he's no good, save them embarrassing themselves.

If they considered him ready and good enougfh we wouldnt get a sniff as we can only get players on loan who the parent club either dont want or consider not ready yet. As regards Tomori I am in 2 minds he is not better than we have but would be adequate back up but again Chelsea do not consider him ready for the Premier League.

 

[BensGrandad]

The "FACT"

Lukaku, De Bruyne, Kane and plenty of other top players had to go out on loan at Gomez's age to kickstart their careers.

Would you be against us taking Tomori back on loan for the season using this logic?

Yes they did and the parent club benefitted as soon as they were considered good enough so why should we be the guinea pigs for bigger clubs like L;iverpool, when we have the likes of Bruno and Rossenior who have played at a higher level than Gomez has consistently. We bring him on Liverpool reap the benefits but as I said if he is better than we have by all means but is he, potentially he is but our 2 right backs have experience to fall back on.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

If they considered him ready and good enougfh we wouldnt get a sniff as we can only get players on loan who the parent club either dont want or consider not ready yet. As regards Tomori I am in 2 minds he is not better than we have but would be adequate back up but again Chelsea do not consider him ready for the Premier League.

Yes they did and the parent club benefitted as soon as they were considered good enough so why should we be the guinea pigs for bigger clubs like L;iverpool, when we have the likes of Bruno and Rossenior who have played at a higher level than Gomez has consistently. We bring him on Liverpool reap the benefits but as I said if he is better than we have by all means but is he, potentially he is but our 2 right backs have experience to fall back on.

Clear demonstration that BGD doesn't understand that being ready to play for Chelsea/Liverpool doesn't equate to being ready to play premier league football for us or palace or swansea etc. There really isn't any point arguing with him, one may just as well argue with a toddler.

 

[BensGrandad]

Clear demonstration that BGD doesn't understand that being ready to play for Chelsea/Liverpool doesn't equate to being ready to play premier league football for us or palace or swansea etc. There really isn't any point arguing with him, one may just as well argue with a toddler.

Please explain the difference ,apart from the expectation of the big 6 clubs to win the league, what is the difference playing for us against Man Utd or Spurs than for Liverpool or Chelsea against them he is either good enougfh and ready or not. We do not need him simple.

 

[blockhseagull]

Please explain the difference ,apart from the expectation of the big 6 clubs to win the league, what is the difference playing for us against Man Utd or Spurs than for Liverpool or Chelsea against them he is either good enougfh and ready or not. We do not need him simple.

Because currently they have better players

Simple as

 

[BensGrandad]

Because currently they have better players

Simple as

I accept that but so do we, players with experience and proven ability. As I have said if he is better than we have ok but is he?

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Because currently they have better players

Simple as

Exactly. Obviously Gomez may not be considered 'good' enough for Liverpool atm. However, presumably, Liverpool may have a better team than Bournemouth who did very well by their standards last year. Gomez may be worse than Liverpool's options but better than those available to Bournemouth. This argument is very odd indeed.

 

[BensGrandad]

Exactly. Obviously Gomez may not be considered 'good' enough for Liverpool atm. However, presumably, Liverpool may have a better team than Bournemouth who did very well by their standards last year. Gomez may be worse than Liverpool's options but better than those available to Bournemouth. This argument is very odd indeed.

But is he better and more experienced than Bruno and Rossenior?

 

[Poyningsgull]

Clear demonstration that BGD doesn't understand that being ready to play for Chelsea/Liverpool doesn't equate to being ready to play premier league football for us or palace or swansea etc. There really isn't any point arguing with him, one may just as well argue with a toddler.

Having a discussion on a fans forum is not arguing. It's exchanging opinions and points of view. Because someone has different opinions to you does not required your toys to be lobbed from the pram. Debate a point, agree to disagree and have a beer seems to be the best way forward (in my opinion of course)

 

[BensGrandad]

Having a discussion on a fans forum is not arguing. It's exchanging opinions and points of view. Because someone has different opinions to you does not required your toys to be lobbed from the pram. Debate a point, agree to disagree and have a beer seems to be the best way forward (in my opinion of course)

Exactly

 

[BensGrandad]

But is he better and more experienced than Bruno and Rossenior?

If you think so what is the basis for your view.

 

[Poyningsgull]

If you think so what is the basis for your view.

You are quoting yourself.?

 

[WhingForPresident]

Yes they did and the parent club benefitted as soon as they were considered good enough so why should we be the guinea pigs for bigger clubs like L;iverpool, when we have the likes of Bruno and Rossenior who have played at a higher level than Gomez has consistently. We bring him on Liverpool reap the benefits but as I said if he is better than we have by all means but is he, potentially he is but our 2 right backs have experience to fall back on.

Lukaku scored 17 on loan for West Brom and 15 whilst on loan at Everton. That could be the difference between relegation and finishing mid-table.

I really don't think Gomez is being considered as a nailed-on first teamer, more an upgrade on Tomori as a good young player that can put a shift in when and where required. Gomez is a centre-back primarily but was doing a good job at left-back for Liverpool in the PL when he was 18 before his injury.

 

[BensGrandad]

Lukaku scored 17 on loan for West Brom and 15 whilst on loan at Everton. That could be the difference between relegation and finishing mid-table.

I really don't think Gomez is being considered as a nailed-on first teamer, more an upgrade on Tomori as a good young player that can put a shift in when and where required. Gomez is a centre-back primarily but was doing a good job at left-back for Liverpool in the PL when he was 18 before his injury.

That is not how it seems in most peoples posts. It would appear that most consider him to be the answer to our left back position and or right back if Bruno struggles with age catching him up. The argument against Gomez is if he is predominantly a CB why are Liverpool letting him go out on loan as that is one of their major problem positions.

 

[junior]

If you think so what is the basis for your view.

Surely that proves that BG is a second account?

 

[BensGrandad]

Surely that proves that BG is a second account?

Its not but why do you say that?

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

But is he better and more experienced than Bruno and Rossenior?

If you think so what is the basis for your view.

Classic BG, arguing with himself