Job Vacancy - Recruitment Consultant - no experience necessary - excellent £££

[Commander]

I have a lot of experience in many fields and am a degree qualified engineer.
I have a lot of drive and ambition and thought that I could make a difference in the field of recruitment, as I have employed people in the past and have been a pretty good judge.
I have found the recruitment consultants here to be mainly in their early twenties and have little knowledge industry and were not able to answer my questions.
I shudder to think that these people will be responsible for submitting short lists of prospective candidates with the limited knowledge that they have.

There's two sides to that though, you don't need to be an expert in the industry you recruit in to be a good recruiter. I recruit into the clinical trial sector within Pharma, I don't know much about clinical trials. Enough to sound like I do to someone outside of industry, but not enough to fool someone who actually does the job. It's not a recruiters job to be an expert in the industry they recruit to, it's to be an expert in recruiting.

There's also this perception that a recruitment consultant's job is to find work for candidates. It isn't, the job is to make your company money. It's a cut-throat industry and the consultants that mess around trying to find jobs for people that they like, rather than only working with the people that can make them money, are the ones that ultimately fail. Anyone going into it should be aware of that.

You need to be able to constantly ask yourself "Is this conversation going to make me money?" If the answer is no, then you need to end it and pick up the phone and have a conversation that will. Not all agencies are like this, I should add, there are plenty where you can work 9-5 and earn £30K a year having a nice chat on the phone all day. Fine for some people- don't apply to this if that sounds like you.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Err...

Nearly choked on a hot cross bun reading that

 

[Triggaaar]

You need to be able to constantly ask yourself "Is this conversation going to make me money?" If the answer is no, then you need to end it and pick up the phone and have a conversation that will.

It makes sense, it's business, but it

 

[Chicken Run]

Good luck in finding the right recruit Cmdr, your place sounds like the Wolf of Wall Street, I bet you and your team loved that film [emoji3]

 

[Commander]

Good luck in finding the right recruit Cmdr, your place sounds like the Wolf of Wall Street, I bet you and your team loved that film [emoji3]

It is a bit, the difference being what we are doing is actually legal, and we're not all going to prison at the end. Plus it's in a sleepy Surrey town rather than NYC.

I did like that film, but 3 hours of it was a bit unnecessary.

 

[Carrot Cruncher]

It is a bit, the difference being what we are doing is actually legal, and we're not all going to prison at the end. Plus it's in a sleepy Surrey town rather than NYC.

I did like that film, but 3 hours of it was a bit unnecessary.

Will there be dwarf tossing in the office? That's a deal breaker...

 

[Commander]

Will there be dwarf tossing in the office? That's a deal breaker...

It's all performance related, so yes, it's possible.

(No).

 

[Puppet Master]

RIP Frank

 

[Commander]

RIP Frank

Indeed, any recruitment thread is a bit flat without him threatening to **** all our Mums.

 

[samtheseagull]

Indeed, any recruitment thread is a bit flat without him threatening to **** all our Mums.

Where are you based?

 

[BiffyBoy]

Back in June 2014 I posted an advert looking for someone to join my team to work as a Recruitment Consultant. It sparked a long discussion, some of it positive and some of it negative, and I was accused of all sorts of things, one of which was “playing with people’s hopes and dreams”. This riled me a bit, so I thought I’d give some specific figures this time. The guy that I successfully hired from this NSC advert had no recruitment experience, no sales experience, and no qualifications. He’s been in the role for 18 months, is now a Senior Consultant and is looking to be promoted to a Manager this year, earns £20K basic salary and is currently taking home £2700 a month after tax, the equivalent of £45K a year. If he keeps going the way he is going, that figure will be £3500 net and £60K by the end of this year. Next year he’ll be disappointed if he doesn’t make six figures. He also flew business class to Vegas in December and stayed in a suite (with a hot tub in the room) at the Bellagio, all-expenses paid for 5 nights after qualifying for the annual incentive trip abroad.

Due to my team’s continued success, I am now looking to add to it again. This is a position that you don’t need work experience for, you just need an ability and passion for talking to people, along with a hunger, drive and desire to succeed and a can-do attitude. You need to be able to hold high-level conversations, have a persuasive nature and be naturally good at overcoming objections. You also need to be extremely resilient, as you are likely to want to quit at least 6 times in your first 6 months. The role is fast paced with superb opportunities for the right people, both financially and for career development.

The position is mainly a telephone based role, involving winning new business through networking and sourcing experienced contractors to freelance roles within the pharmaceutical industry. You need to be fearless and ballsy and enjoy working in a fast-paced environment where you will be required to multi-task and work to challenging targets. If you are successful then you will also get to attend conferences and client meetings throughout Europe, and even globally. You will be working in a fun, buzzy, exciting environment, with people who love what they do and will go to great lengths to succeed. It can be a bit of a Lion’s den, but for the right people it is a fantastic environment to work in.

I manage the top-performing team in the company, and have a track record of training and developing people with no experience, and turning them into superstars within the company. My team has a superb culture for the right person, with (admittedly sometimes over-the top) great banter and a fun environment to work in. We even have an ex-Brighton player on the team (appearances: 0, goals 0, cards: 0), along with a bordering-on-alcoholic Chilean, a Palace fan and Merstham FC’s (some two-bob Ryman League outfit) only supporter.

You’re not going to get rich from the basic salary, but recruitment isn’t about the basic salary, it’s all about the commission. For someone coming in with no experience you can realistically expect to earn £30K in year one, £40-60K in year two, and £100K+ in year three.

Sound too good to be true? That’s because it kind of is- it isn’t easy, this is not a 9-5 job, and it is not suitable for someone who wants to go through the motions and have an easy life. This is a cut-throat industry, and to succeed you need to be prepared to put in the long hours, and the effort. If you do that, are not scared of picking up the phone and talking to people, and can take on training and coaching, then you will succeed, as long as you have a resilient personality and don’t ever give up. This industry is not for everyone, and a large percentage of people don’t make the grade. For those that do, the rewards on offer are fantastic.

To give you the very best opportunity to succeed we provide the best training in the industry, along with extensive on-desk support and guidance. You will experience an initial 4 week training programme, in this time we will teach you how to transfer your experience and build the knowledge required to become a successful specialist recruiter within this sector. You will undergo a 6 month probation period where you will be expected to achieve a specified revenue target before passing probation. You will then have the chance to earn share options in the company, which are performance based with 41% of the company available to the employees. Numerous people have earnt shares in only their second year in the job, and are looking at making life-changing sums of money at some point in the next few years when the shares are realised.

Our office is based near Gatwick (easily commutable from London / Surrey / Sussex), and we are a global company with options for working in New York, Singapore, North Carolina, Frankfurt, France and Kuala Lumpur once you are established in the role. We also have extensive growth plans with plans to open offices in South America, Hong Kong and Australia, to name a few. All our employees in our global offices started out in our Gatwick head office, and if you are successful you will have the option to move to one of our international bases.

Make no mistake- this is not a job for someone who wants to earn some decent money for a bit while they work out want they want to do with their life, it is a proper career working for one of the very best agencies in the business. We invest thousands and thousands of pounds in training and development in every new recruit, and we expect people to be with us for the long haul. It is a genuine meritocracy and the best people rise to the top very quickly.

I’ll need to see a copy of your CV in the first instance, and if I’m happy with it then we’ll have an initial telephone conversation. Our interview process is tough, and most people don’t make the grade. If you back yourself as a winner and think you can overcome any challenge, then I’d love to hear from you.

Send your CV to aswan@barringtonjames.com or call 01293 776644 and ask for Ash, for an informal discussion about the position and the company.

P.S. the guy I hired from the NSC advert was a Palace fan. That cannot happen again, I need to redress the balance of my team!


Let the annual NSC recruitment consultancy binfest begin.

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[BeardyChops]

There's also this perception that a recruitment consultant's job is to find work for candidates. It isn't, the job is to make your company money. It's a cut-throat industry and the consultants that mess around trying to find jobs for people that they like, rather than only working with the people that can make them money, are the ones that ultimately fail. Anyone going into it should be aware of that.

You need to be able to constantly ask yourself "Is this conversation going to make me money?" If the answer is no, then you need to end it and pick up the phone and have a conversation that will. Not all agencies are like this, I should add, there are plenty where you can work 9-5 and earn £30K a year having a nice chat on the phone all day. Fine for some people- don't apply to this if that sounds like you.

Obviously the agent should get paid for their services, but you don't do much to dispel the reputation recruitment agents have of being interested solely in themselves.

While that's refreshingly honest, whenever I recruit I look for an agent who's job is to find the right candidates for my company.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

How much will I need to bill to become one of the Key BJ people? https://www.barringtonjames.com/key-bj-people.cms.asp

Is a red tie compulsory for the men? Do the women have to wear grey?

 

[BN9 BHA]

Where are you based?

The clues are all there Sam
If you are seriously considering applying for this job, asking something that's already been posted twice isn't going to help you .

 

[Soulman]

There's also this perception that a recruitment consultant's job is to find work for candidates. It isn't, the job is to make your company money. It's a cut-throat industry and the consultants that mess around trying to find jobs for people that they like, rather than only working with the people that can make them money, are the ones that ultimately fail. Anyone going into it should be aware of that.

You need to be able to constantly ask yourself "Is this conversation going to make me money?" If the answer is no, then you need to end it and pick up the phone and have a conversation that will. Not all agencies are like this, I should add, there are plenty where you can work 9-5 and earn £30K a year having a nice chat on the phone all day. Fine for some people- don't apply to this if that sounds like you.

So glad i can avoid working through these people.

 

[samtheseagull]

The clues are all there Sam
If you are seriously considering applying for this job, asking something that's already been posted twice isn't going to help you .

thanks for you witty response, i only read it quickly as was reading on my phone and no the jobs not for me.

 

[sparkie]

Obviously the agent should get paid for their services, but you don't do much to dispel the reputation recruitment agents have of being interested solely in themselves.

While that's refreshingly honest, whenever I recruit I look for an agent who's job is to find the right candidates for my company.

It is refreshing, as you say, but I've always expected a little more from agents who have tried to place me in a role. Any that haven't got back to me after I've given up time to apply for one of their placements get struck off linked in, and their agency never dealt with again. Is a 60 second call to say the application didn't go anywhere too much politeness to ask for ?

 

[BN9 BHA]

thanks for you witty response,

You're welcome

 

[Commander]

Obviously the agent should get paid for their services, but you don't do much to dispel the reputation recruitment agents have of being interested solely in themselves.

While that's refreshingly honest, whenever I recruit I look for an agent who's job is to find the right candidates for my company.

Of course they are only out for themselves. How many companies are out for anyone else? I'm just being honest. Drug companies don't make drugs to make sick people better, they do it to make money. I never understand why people think recruitment consultancies would be any different.

But that's not to say we don't look for the right candidates for our clients- that's exactly what we do, because that is what makes us money. If we didn't, then the candidate would leave and we'd have to pay part of it back. We make money by providing an excellent service to excellent clients who want to work with us properly, not "you go away and spend six weeks finding us candidates, send me a load of CVs and then we'll never get back to you". And that is what makes the job so hard- finding and persuading clients to work with you properly.l, and making sure you aren't working for nothing.

The problem with the recruitment industry is that 95% of the work you do is for free, and that's why the industry gets a bad rap, because that means candidates often get a bad service in return, with people not getting back to them because they've spent hours and hours working for them and end up getting nothing for it. We genuinely try to avoid that because it gives you a bad name in the industry. Anyone that does that sort of thing working for us won't do it for very long.

 

[Commander]

Obviously the agent should get paid for their services, but you don't do much to dispel the reputation recruitment agents have of being interested solely in themselves.

While that's refreshingly honest, whenever I recruit I look for an agent who's job is to find the right candidates for my company.

I just reported this post for being inappropriate by mistake! Sorry, there was nothing inappropriate about it!