Job Opportunity at TOP London Football Club

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

15k for a job in London is a really poor wage whatever way you look at it but at least its a rung on the ladder for some poor SOB.

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

Depends on what they were studying.

Let's give 4: a humanities subject (history, english, philosophy etc), a generic business degree, a media related degree (journalism, media studies etc) and a science degree (biology, biomedical science etc).

What would you say would be a fair starting salary for a graduate in these to expect?

 

[middletoenail]

That's before tax. Imagine what the take home is if you get 2p in the pound.

 

[NickBHAFC18]

It works the other way as well. Employers are advertising jobs, that really can only be counted as unskilled, low grade work, as graduate jobs as they realise they can get very talented candidates on low wages.

What would you say was an acceptable wage level for someone who has spent 3+ years studying at University?

True, true. To be fair, I can't put a level on it as different industries and jobs require different salaries. But one example, a bloke interviewed for a position for the company I work. He had finished Uni 6 months ago and was desperate to work. He had been searching for a while, and we interview him, liked him, and offered him a decent salary. Ok, it may not of been the £34K he was looking for, but for someone without ANY work experience it was certainly a fair salary. Still, it wasn't the £34K he was expecting and turned it down. Now that bloke showed no effort, and expected to be where he wanted to be without putting in the work.

I didn't go to Uni, so maybe my expectations are not as high. But I've been in full time work since I left school, and even at school I was working weekends and early mornings. I pride myself on my dedication and the effort I put in, and to be where you want to be you need to put the effort in, even if that means starting at the bottom and working your way up.

A lot of students, not all, but a lot think that they are "entitled" to a decent job once they've finished their degrees and a lot of them have never even been employed...

 

[Cantona's Flying Dropkick]

***Misleading thread title alert***

Exactly.

First I thought of Arsenal, Spurs & Chelsea. No.
Then QPR, Fulham & West Ham. No again.
Charlton, Millwall, Brentford and even Orient. Not.
What about AFC Wimbledon, Barnet or Dagenham & Redbridge? No.
Fisher Athletic or the Met Police. No.

Then they mentioned palarse. That's it, they're having a laugh.

 

[Aadam]

Let's give 4: a humanities subject (history, english, philosophy etc), a generic business degree, a media related degree (journalism, media studies etc) and a science degree (biology, biomedical science etc).

What would you say would be a fair starting salary for a graduate in these to expect?

I wasn't going to give an exact amount, I was just saying it depends on what they have, as well as the position they're going for. Having a degree in sciences but going for a buisiness position shouldn't increase your worth. But there are a lot of facets to deciding an acceptable wage for a position, such as: demand for that position, location, hours, responsibilities.

I feel that some graduates just expect more because of a degree.

 

[Superphil]

At least they won't have to pay back their student loan on that salary, so there you go, a free university education for the person who gets that job.

 

[Kumquat]

At least they won't have to pay back their student loan on that salary, so there you go, a free university education for the person who gets that job.

Only if they are on that or a similar salary for 30 years!

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

A lot of students, not all, but a lot think that they are "entitled" to a decent job once they've finished their degrees and a lot of them have never even been employed...

Problem is higher wages and a decent job was what you get told will happen before you go to University. You go to University, you do your years of studying, you come out the other end with skills that can offer you good employment. It does take a bit of adjusting to realise that this isn't really the reality. This has just come from there being more graduates around, which in turn, has come from the Unversity system being expanded to the point that it is possible to get the entry grades to a degree despite having failed all the way through School and College.

I just think it is a fallacy to argue that ALL students come out of University expecting 30k plus jobs. I graduated last year from a good University in a humanities degree - not a single person from everyone I knew from University OR School has got a job that pays anywhere near 30k. Far from it. When you look through some of the salaries offered for these 'graduate' roles it just makes you wonder how people can afford to live if they haven't gone to University and got a degree to bump up their salary.

 

[leigull]

Silly question - but why would a graphic designer have to work match days?

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Only if they are on that or a similar salary for 30 years!

There's your choice though

 

[Superphil]

Only if they are on that or a similar salary for 30 years!

Doubt they'll ever earn much more there!

 

[Kumquat]

Doubt they'll ever earn much more there!

True enough, but their role has always been to produce talent for other people to poach!

 

[Biscuit]

Ah the old Graduate binfest again. *pulls up a seat*

The wage any given graduate looks for will depend on their degree, and the availability/competition of/for jobs.

I took a very low paid job after graduating from Television Production. I was one of TWO people on my course to get a job in the industry. I have since worked up and moved from company to company and now earn a good wage. I think most graduates see the importance of gaining experience in lower paid jobs now-a-days as many employers ask for the moon on a stick and offer minimum wage. My advice is to suck it up and do it, because once you combine your skills with experience you'll soon be earning good money. I was lucky enough to have a very supportive family and a thick enough skin not to listen to half the crap written on here by people who have no idea about they are talking about.

 

[Southwick_Seagull]

Problem is higher wages and a decent job was what you get told will happen before you go to University. You go to University, you do your years of studying, you come out the other end with skills that can offer you good employment. It does take a bit of adjusting to realise that this isn't really the reality. This has just come from there being more graduates around, which in turn, has come from the Unversity system being expanded to the point that it is possible to get the entry grades to a degree despite having failed all the way through School and College.

I just think it is a fallacy to argue that ALL students come out of University expecting 30k plus jobs. I graduated last year from a good University in a humanities degree - not a single person from everyone I knew from University OR School has got a job that pays anywhere near 30k. Far from it. When you look through some of the salaries offered for these 'graduate' roles it just makes you wonder how people can afford to live if they haven't gone to University and got a degree to bump up their salary.

Seconded.