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Jim Gannon made redundant !
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The Large One
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Didn't realise it was that nailed-on.
Wilka
Well-known member
But for a club like Stockport who were neither going up or down it's a waste of time taking 10 points where as 10 points off next season would hit them harder.
The Large One
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... which is merely underlining how scattergun the approach to punishment is.
No I understand what you are saying, but this points deduction and the way it works is not designed to affect promotion or relegation issues, hence the reason why it's only teams that are deliberately trying to flout the rules that will get punished one or the other, ala Leeds United or Southampton. Stockport were clearly not trying to flout the rules, and their position had no bearing on the final outcome of the league table (other than to help us to a flattering 16th!!), hence the reason why the penalty could apply this year.
Assuming Stockport are around next season...
Brighton Breezy
New member
Dicker is all but signed on. FACTARAMA.
Guy Fawkes
The voice of treason
- Sep 29, 2007
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If it is true that he has gone, how long was it before his contract expired?, after all could it have been at the end of this season and they have just chosen not to extend it and wait til the start of next season to bring in a cheaper replacement, saving a wage in the meantime
The Grockle
Formally Croydon Seagull
if if wants to stay in the north west then he might have to settle for portvale unless he gets offered the blackpool job? Could be interesting.
Southover Street Seagull
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That all depends if they come out of administration via a CVA. If they don't and this is quite likely, then the Football League will probably deduct more points off them.
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Probably depends if the taxman is a creditor - if he is then they have zero chance of getting an agreed CVA in line with the rules and the taxman is always a priority creditor. My guess would be that the aggressive creditor that called time is a football related creditor and so did it to try and get their money back.
Southover Street Seagull
Well-known member
It did actually affect them, they got less money from the Football League for finishing lower, and for a club in administration every little penny helps.
Next season if they don't come out the administration via a CVA and pay off all their football debts they will have more points deducted.
pork pie
New member
Do we need a bootboy?
sten_super
Brain Surgeon
Ouch. Shows just how much trouble they are in. If Russell wants any of Stockport's players, now's gotta be the time to put the bids in. Offer them cash now, rather than on completion (1st July, when the transfer window opens again) and that's gotta bring the price down a bit...
Stinky Kat
Tripping
what price loyalty - he stuck with them in Feb and now he gets his reward - he seems to be a talent - stockport looked good on saturday considering the heart of the team has been sold loaned out, but as perth says we now have Russell and hopefully his passion and pride added to his football nous will take Albion higher
The rule regarding pts deduction is that if you are in the relegation zone at the end of the season irrespective of the 10pts then it is taken off at the begining of the following season. If you are outside the relegation zone at the end of the seasons then, if the application of the deduction puts you in the relegation zone then it applies in the current season to get you relegated.
Finally, if, like Stockport, you are clear of the zone by 10 pts then it is applied this season.
It is the final part that I find absurd as it would make sense to apply it next season otherwise there is no punishment.
Finally, if, like Stockport, you are clear of the zone by 10 pts then it is applied this season.
It is the final part that I find absurd as it would make sense to apply it next season otherwise there is no punishment.
Storer68
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i thought we were always going to take dicker. Just the timing needed to be sorted out
LOAN star Gary Dicker has revealed he played without pay to help Albion complete their dramatic push for safety.
Dicker found himself in the bizarre situation of playing against his parent club as Stockport allowed the Seagulls to use him in the final game of the League One campaign.
He responded with a typically effective midfield display capped by the rasping shot which led to Nicky Forster’s winning goal.
What we did not know at the time was Dicker found himself with something in common with the Stockport players he faced. Like them, he had not been paid recently by the crisis-torn Cheshire club.
The 22-year-old Irishman admitted: “The way the loan works is they (Stockport) still pay me and they are reimbursed at the end of the season.
“I haven’t been paid this month. I’m not complaining. There’s a lot more players there who haven’t been paid.
“It’s just a sad thing the way it has happened but I’m not going to let it affect me.
“I don’t think any of the Stockport lads let it affect them. They put in everything.
“I just got on with the job, then I’ll worry about getting paid.
“When you’re younger you play for free anyway, don’t you? But hopefully we can get it sorted soon.”
Dicker admitted pre-game phone calls to mates at Edgeley Park had focussed on money as well as football.
He said: “You’re always asking questions but it’s hard to know where it has gone wrong and who to ask.
“The girls in the office at Stockport have been brilliant, keeping in contact.
“We were meant to get paid last week so I think we could be getting it next week.”
Asked how much he had discussed the game with County’s players, he said: “I was speaking to a few of them. It was ‘who's playing?’ and stuff but there’s only so much you can know.
“You can only go out and do the job and I thought we deserved to win the game.”
Dicker was a desperately disappointed figure as he spoke to The Argus three weeks previously after the home defeat by Swindon.
But, with safety now secured, he pinpoints what happened in the days after that game as the turning point of the season.
Success at Colchester 48 hours later started a decisive run of four wins and a draw in five games against mid-table sides.
Dicker admitted the thought of relegation was at the back of his mind on Easter Saturday but added: “We kicked on after that and got the win at Colchester.
“That just breathed confidence back into us straight away.
“I think if we had even only got a draw at Colchester it maybe would have been different but the win there got us right back in it. I don’t think we have looked back since.
“It was two days later and we got straight back to business with a win.
“I think that was a massive confidence boost for the lads after the disappointment of Swindon because we knew we should have got something out of that game.
“Since then we’ve got better and better.”
Stockport did their bit to contribute to a record league gate at Withdean by filling the West Stand but the afternoon was all about the colour, the noise and, at times, the nerves of the Albion fans.
Dicker admitted all the atmosphere and emotion transmitted itself across the running track.
He said: “I didn’t expect it to be that loud when I came out.
“To see all the blue and white was brilliant. The fans played a part, definitely. You’re always going to be nervous but we controlled it, we didn’t do too much sloppy.
“We did what we had to, we cleared it when we had to and I think we grew it into it.
“I personally didn’t know the other scores. You’re better off not knowing.You should have the same concentration, do the same things.
“I think it’s good that way we just got on with it.
“We knew if we won we were staying up so it was just brilliant to get the win.”
And what a way to clinch it. The Stockport man getting in a shot and Forster, whose season seemed over until very recently, popping up for the finish.
That’s Forster the substitute for a substitute after injuries struck Gary Hart and Calvin Andrew.
It has been a season of injuries to strikers but, a bit like that loose ball coming back on to Forster’s right foot 17 minutes from time, things fell very nicely for them this time.We were wheeling him out at half-time,” Dicker said. “That’s his game, what he’s all about.
“He’s a goalscorer and I wasn’t shocked when I saw him on the end of the shot.
“It was a great finish and a great day for him.”