Jeremy Corbyn's conference speech

[Mackenzie]

100,000 new Council Houses and Housing Association homes every year until the housing crisis is solved.

Quite simple and quite a good idea.

Paid for with what?

 

[studio150]

I don't think you're right. I wrote "It ought to be possible for the government of the day to allow people to keep a minimum of half their earned income...". The only inference from that is that there are people who are taxed more than 50% of their total earnings and really shouldn't be.

You carry on believing that I am obviously handicapped by having English as a first language and not having the ability to read something into written words which is just not there.

allow people to keep a minimum of half their earned income does not in any shape or form suggest that people are taxed at more than 50%. It merely suggests that people should be able to keep half their income which unless the meaning of a half has changed is 50%.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Paid for with what?

Sincerity

 

[El Presidente]

Paid for with what?

A cancellation of Trident?

 

[Simster]

You carry on believing that I am obviously handicapped by having English as a first language and not having the ability to read something into written words which is just not there.

allow people to keep a minimum of half their earned income does not in any shape or form suggest that people are taxed at more than 50%. It merely suggests that people should be able to keep half their income which unless the meaning of a half has changed is 50%.

I don't want to antagonise you too much, but you do continue to struggle.

Can you tell me which bit of "It ought to be possible for the government of the day to allow people to keep a minimum of half their earned income" that people handicapped by English as a first language clearly interpret as "the government should tax them at 50%".

Your handicap isn't your first language, it's your inability to interpret it. Or anything, for that matter, given your comical explanation of my earlier pointless graph.

 

[Mackenzie]

Sincerity

A cancellation of Trident?

The cup final money?

 

[El Presidente]

The cup final money?

Dick TIGHT used that to build himself a life sized gold statue of The Chuckle Brothers (aka McGhee and Bob 'The Clipboard Kid' Booker) for his villa on the Costa del Liz

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Keep hearing this man of principle line but wasn't he questioning our EU membership ... now for staying in. Withdraw from NATO now .....? Big fan of a United Ireland but no mention of that Unilateral nuclear disarmament was mentioned but if he is defeated by the party does he just shrug his shoulders and say oh well or resign as any principled individual would do.

 

[Mackenzie]

Corbyn has been good for politics, he's got simple folk like me talking about it.

Labour politicians are making really good listening at the moment, all pledging their support to their leader despite not agreeing with a word he's saying, being seen to be acting democratically. When Jezza is inevitably forced out you watch those same fellows sticking the knife in.

I'm no conservative, but this whole charade is making fascinating viewing. Car crash politics.

 

[Bozza]

Brilliant. Corbyn took great swathes of his speech, word for word, from a blog post written by Richard Heller 4 years ago and previously offered to Miliband (who rejected using it).

Example...

Corbyn today:

Since the dawn of history in virtually every human society there are some people who are given a great deal and many more people who are given little or nothing. Some people have property and power, class and capital, status and clout which are denied to the many.

And time and time again, the people who receive a great deal tell the many to be grateful to be given anything at all. They say that the world cannot be changed and the many must accept the terms on which they are allowed to live in it.

Heller's blog:

Since the dawn of history, in virtually every human society there are some people who are given a great deal and many more people who are given little or nothing. Some people have property and power, class and capital, status and even sanctity, which are denied to the multitude.

And time and time again, the people who receive a great deal tell the multitude to be grateful to be given anything at all. They say that the world cannot be changed and the multitude must accept the terms on which they are allowed to live in it.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffee...ch-today-was-written-for-ed-miliband-in-2011/

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Brilliant. Corbyn took great swathes of his speech, word for word, from a blog post written by Richard Heller 4 years ago and previously offered to Miliband (who rejected using it).

Example...

Corbyn today:

Since the dawn of history in virtually every human society there are some people who are given a great deal and many more people who are given little or nothing. Some people have property and power, class and capital, status and clout which are denied to the many.

And time and time again, the people who receive a great deal tell the many to be grateful to be given anything at all. They say that the world cannot be changed and the many must accept the terms on which they are allowed to live in it.

Heller's blog:

Since the dawn of history, in virtually every human society there are some people who are given a great deal and many more people who are given little or nothing. Some people have property and power, class and capital, status and even sanctity, which are denied to the multitude.

And time and time again, the people who receive a great deal tell the multitude to be grateful to be given anything at all. They say that the world cannot be changed and the multitude must accept the terms on which they are allowed to live in it.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffee...ch-today-was-written-for-ed-miliband-in-2011/

Nice words. I might use them myself.

 

[Insel affe]

Corbyn has been good for politics, he's got simple folk like me talking about it....

I'm no conservative, but this whole charade is making fascinating viewing. Car crash politics.

Oh yeah... Hipsters the new champagne socialists voted him in.....

Thinking he is the only free talking fresh thinking politician..... How wrong.....

Old socialist ideals, not one of them are new to us....

Even if you don't agree with his policies Farage was just that at the last election, and if proportional representation had been in play things would be very different in this country right now....

Corbyn will be slaughtered by the press, when they have had their fill and sold all they can on his current value.

Ultimately there are to many things in Corbyns past that will be his downfall.

 

[Blue3]

Just listened to the speech and I have to say I agree with its sentiment and quite impressed with his delivery, as they say the devil is in the detail and it will be interesting to see that developed over the weeks and months ahead

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

VOTE UKIP !!
regards
DR

 

[LamieRobertson]

Corbyn has been good for politics, he's got simple folk like me talking about it.

Labour politicians are making really good listening at the moment, all pledging their support to their leader despite not agreeing with a word he's saying, being seen to be acting democratically. When Jezza is inevitably forced out you watch those same fellows sticking the knife in.

I'm no conservative, but this whole charade is making fascinating viewing. Car crash politics.

There seems to be just a thin veneer of support ..scratch beneath the surface and you see the same as before....still its very early days.

 

[studio150]

I don't want to antagonise you too much, but you do continue to struggle.

Can you tell me which bit of "It ought to be possible for the government of the day to allow people to keep a minimum of half their earned income" that people handicapped by English as a first language clearly interpret as "the government should tax them at 50%".

Your handicap isn't your first language, it's your inability to interpret it. Or anything, for that matter, given your comical explanation of my earlier pointless graph.

Oh dear keep a minimum of half their income clearly means that people should keep a minimum of 50%, therefore a tax rate of 50% means they are keeping a minimum of half their income.

There is clearly a disconnect between your brain and the keyboard, but I give up you can carrying on believing what ever you want to. You are obviously always right in whatever you think and the rest of us must do better in understanding your written words so that we understand what you meant to say.

 

[drew]

Oh dear keep a minimum of half their income clearly means that people should keep a minimum of 50%, therefore a tax rate of 50% means they are keeping a minimum of half their income.

There is clearly a disconnect between your brain and the keyboard, but I give up you can carrying on believing what ever you want to. You are obviously always right in whatever you think and the rest of us must do better in understanding your written words so that we understand what you meant to say.

The point is that it is a minimum 50%, not a maximum of 50%. In other words, by saying a minimum of 50% could mean they keep 50% or it could mean they keep 55%, 60% etc etc.

 

[Bry Nylon]

Brilliant. Corbyn took great swathes of his speech, word for word, from a blog post written by Richard Heller 4 years ago and previously offered to Miliband (who rejected using it).

Example...

Corbyn today:

Since the dawn of history in virtually every human society there are some people who are given a great deal and many more people who are given little or nothing. Some people have property and power, class and capital, status and clout which are denied to the many.

And time and time again, the people who receive a great deal tell the many to be grateful to be given anything at all. They say that the world cannot be changed and the many must accept the terms on which they are allowed to live in it.

Heller's blog:

Since the dawn of history, in virtually every human society there are some people who are given a great deal and many more people who are given little or nothing. Some people have property and power, class and capital, status and even sanctity, which are denied to the multitude.

And time and time again, the people who receive a great deal tell the multitude to be grateful to be given anything at all. They say that the world cannot be changed and the multitude must accept the terms on which they are allowed to live in it.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffee...ch-today-was-written-for-ed-miliband-in-2011/

To do that - and then not credit or reference the source - kind of blows a hole in the "Straight talking. Honest politics." stance.

 

[jamie the seagull]

Cannot take the bloke seriously.
It was like a bed time story from your uncle.
Either way he can promise what he like's because he will never become PM.

 

[Mackenzie]

There seems to be just a thin veneer of support ..scratch beneath the surface and you see the same as before....still its very early days.

If you add up the hipsters, commies, vegans, the women protesting at Greenham. the Catholics, republicans, bespectacaled Guardian readers, worried SNP voters and tank top wearers he might just have enough votes to get the gig.