Jeremy Corbyn.

[BLOCK F]

13.5m voted 'left' or left leaning at the last election which was 47.5% of the vote. Many traditional Labour voters are disenfranchised by Labour not being left enough and didn't vote. Obviously anyone with centre or right of centre views will believe he will wreck the country, but might not be so clear cut as you make out.

If he gets voted in as leader, we will just have to wait and see, won't we.
My belief is that there are far more left leaning centrists than there are lefty socialists, if I may call them that, and they are definitely not Corbynites.
I reckon moderates in Labour are already 'plotting' to get rid of Corbyn if he gets in.

 

[Albumen]

There does seem to be a lot of worried Tories on here.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

There does seem to be a lot of worried Tories on here.

Indeed. I wonder how many followed The Telegraph's instructions and joined Labour and voted for him

 

[BensGrandad]

There does seem to be a lot of worried Tories on here.

I really cant understand why, I would think they want Corbyn to win and give them an extended term in office.

 

[BLOCK F]

Indeed. I wonder how many followed The Telegraph's instructions and joined Labour and voted for him

Not me; I have better uses for £3.

 

[Doc Lynam]

Comes across very well in Newsnight interview

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Don't worry; thankfully there aren't sufficient Castellos, Cunning Fergi, Mustafas etc. in this country to let him become PM even if he becomes Labour leader and that is not yet certain.
That doesn't mean there is room for complacency amongst those who haven't been 'swept along' by Corbynism,

I think you maybe mistaken - I'm someone that hasn't voted Labour nationally since 1997 and if he wins, and obviously depending upon the exact policies he publishes, I'd seriously consider voting for him ( well the Labour Party in reality ).

 

[Surf's Up]

Comes across very well in Newsnight interview

Clear and unambiguous answers to questions that all the other candidates would've dodged or given highly qualified and non-committal answers to. If he wins it will be fascinating to see how he leads Labour, how their policies emerge, what their policies contain, how he rides the very predictable Tory onslaught from day 1 of his leadership and whether his appointment really will begin to change the face and character of british politics.

 

[BLOCK F]

I think you maybe mistaken - I'm someone that hasn't voted Labour nationally since 1997 and if he wins, and obviously depending upon the exact policies he publishes, I'd seriously consider voting for him ( well the Labour Party in reality ).

Fair enough Westdene, that is your right.
May I ask who you previously voted for, if not the Labour Party?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Fair enough Westdene, that is your right.
May I ask who you previously voted for, if not the Labour Party?

Floating voter - previous to 1997 a mixture of Tory, Labour and Lib Dem. Since 2001 - Tory except this year which was UKIP.

 

[BLOCK F]

Floating voter - previous to 1997 a mixture of Tory, Labour and Lib Dem. Since 2001 - Tory except this year which was UKIP.

Wow, you are a serious 'floating voter'!

 

[BLOCK F]

Clear and unambiguous answers to questions that all the other candidates would've dodged or given highly qualified and non-committal answers to. If he wins it will be fascinating to see how he leads Labour, how their policies emerge, what their policies contain, how he rides the very predictable Tory onslaught from day 1 of his leadership and whether his appointment really will begin to change the face and character of british politics.

This was just an unchallenging cosy little chat, nothing more.

 

[Castello]

Comes across very well in Newsnight interview

A positive vision for the future not about Jeremy Corbyn but about how we achieve a more inclusive supportive society. A society that is about building and creating a future rather than looking backwards and trying to return to what we used to be like. Quite ironic how his opponents talk about the past and Jeremy talks about the future. They call him anti american, anti europe, anti british and anti semitic and he only talks about wanting more positive relations.

Quite simply a positive vision against a bankrupt corrupt and negative system. Thats why hundreds of thousands flood to hear the vision and join the Labour Party to support it.

 

[Castello]

Can someone explain to me why people who clearly despise left wing ideas are so drawn and compelled to comment ad nauseum on Jeremy Corbyn. It cant be that they would think theyre going to change minds, when the gang of three plus their losers from the past cant change our minds.

It cant be about genuine debate, when they add no evidence nor anything new to their arguments, just simply trotting out the same tired old lines. There are contrributors on here that dont agree with me, but who do genuinely add to the debate, but in order to do this their arguments develop and try to build their points.

They may think they can offend us but thats not very nice, nor effective. Believe me after 35 years of being involved in left wing politics, I've learned to tune out the raving right. I find the ignore key very effective in this.

It could be some strange weird fetish for 67 year old bearded political geeks and their supporters, but I really dont wish to go there.

The only real conclusion is that deep in their hearts is a fear. A fear that builds each time they hear Corbyn. A fear that grows further each time they hear the latest failed attempt to stop him from the old time losers, war criminals and media luvvies. A fear that increases as they realise that politics is changing and growing away from what they know and like to a strange new world of positive politics.

Now I am not naming names but if you feel I am talking about you, resist the urge to respond, I wont care anyway, you'll only boost my ego. Go outside take a deep breath and think nice calming positive thoughts, go to a happy place, then come back and look elsewhere. You'll only feel better in the end. Plus as a bonus if you dont respond this thread may slip out of sight.

If this fails, just think after Saturday, a whole new thread of arguments, in which your bile will have a place will start.

 

[Black Rod]

Can someone explain to me why people who clearly despise left wing ideas are so drawn and compelled to comment ad nauseum on Jeremy Corbyn. It cant be that they would think theyre going to change minds, when the gang of three plus their losers from the past cant change our minds.

It cant be about genuine debate, when they add no evidence nor anything new to their arguments, just simply trotting out the same tired old lines. There are contrributors on here that dont agree with me, but who do genuinely add to the debate, but in order to do this their arguments develop and try to build their points.

They may think they can offend us but thats not very nice, nor effective. Believe me after 35 years of being involved in left wing politics, I've learned to tune out the raving right. I find the ignore key very effective in this.

It could be some strange weird fetish for 67 year old bearded political geeks and their supporters, but I really dont wish to go there.

The only real conclusion is that deep in their hearts is a fear. A fear that builds each time they hear Corbyn. A fear that grows further each time they hear the latest failed attempt to stop him from the old time losers, war criminals and media luvvies. A fear that increases as they realise that politics is changing and growing away from what they know and like to a strange new world of positive politics.

Now I am not naming names but if you feel I am talking about you, resist the urge to respond, I wont care anyway, you'll only boost my ego. Go outside take a deep breath and think nice calming positive thoughts, go to a happy place, then come back and look elsewhere. You'll only feel better in the end. Plus as a bonus if you dont respond this thread may slip out of sight.

If this fails, just think after Saturday, a whole new thread of arguments, in which your bile will have a place will start.

For the same reason that people who despise right wing ideas will call anyone who doesn't agree with them a Tory or the classic in the aftermath of the election, calling the electorate stupid for what they did

It doesn't make a jot of difference but if there is something people don't like or agree with you will always get those who throw bile and insults around

 

[BLOCK F]

Can someone explain to me why people who clearly despise left wing ideas are so drawn and compelled to comment ad nauseum on Jeremy Corbyn. It cant be that they would think theyre going to change minds, when the gang of three plus their losers from the past cant change our minds.

It cant be about genuine debate, when they add no evidence nor anything new to their arguments, just simply trotting out the same tired old lines. There are contrributors on here that dont agree with me, but who do genuinely add to the debate, but in order to do this their arguments develop and try to build their points.

They may think they can offend us but thats not very nice, nor effective. Believe me after 35 years of being involved in left wing politics, I've learned to tune out the raving right. I find the ignore key very effective in this.

It could be some strange weird fetish for 67 year old bearded political geeks and their supporters, but I really dont wish to go there.

The only real conclusion is that deep in their hearts is a fear. A fear that builds each time they hear Corbyn. A fear that grows further each time they hear the latest failed attempt to stop him from the old time losers, war criminals and media luvvies. A fear that increases as they realise that politics is changing and growing away from what they know and like to a strange new world of positive politics.

Now I am not naming names but if you feel I am talking about you, resist the urge to respond, I wont care anyway, you'll only boost my ego. Go outside take a deep breath and think nice calming positive thoughts, go to a happy place, then come back and look elsewhere. You'll only feel better in the end. Plus as a bonus if you dont respond this thread may slip out of sight.

If this fails, just think after Saturday, a whole new thread of arguments, in which your bile will have a place will start.

I don't think there is much on NSC that leads me to believe there are many 'raving right' posters around here. The odd comment, maybe, but few and far between.
I think you will find many more leftie posters have 'biled' over Maggie Thatcher than right wingers have over Jeremy Corbyn........but you may not want to hear that.
Finally, he hasn't won yet.

 

[BLOCK F]

Can someone explain to me why people who clearly despise left wing ideas are so drawn and compelled to comment ad nauseum on Jeremy Corbyn. It cant be that they would think theyre going to change minds, when the gang of three plus their losers from the past cant change our minds.

It cant be about genuine debate, when they add no evidence nor anything new to their arguments, just simply trotting out the same tired old lines. There are contrributors on here that dont agree with me, but who do genuinely add to the debate, but in order to do this their arguments develop and try to build their points.

They may think they can offend us but thats not very nice, nor effective. Believe me after 35 years of being involved in left wing politics, I've learned to tune out the raving right. I find the ignore key very effective in this.

It could be some strange weird fetish for 67 year old bearded political geeks and their supporters, but I really dont wish to go there.

The only real conclusion is that deep in their hearts is a fear. A fear that builds each time they hear Corbyn. A fear that grows further each time they hear the latest failed attempt to stop him from the old time losers, war criminals and media luvvies. A fear that increases as they realise that politics is changing and growing away from what they know and like to a strange new world of positive politics.

Now I am not naming names but if you feel I am talking about you, resist the urge to respond, I wont care anyway, you'll only boost my ego. Go outside take a deep breath and think nice calming positive thoughts, go to a happy place, then come back and look elsewhere. You'll only feel better in the end. Plus as a bonus if you dont respond this thread may slip out of sight.

If this fails, just think after Saturday, a whole new thread of arguments, in which your bile will have a place will start.

I don't think there is much on NSC that leads me to believe there are many 'raving right' posters around here. The odd comment, maybe, but few and far between.
I think you will find many more leftie posters have 'biled' over Maggie Thatcher than right wingers have over Jeremy Corbyn........but you may not want to hear that.
Finally, he hasn't won yet.
Apologies for double post!

 

[glasfryn]

A positive vision for the future not about Jeremy Corbyn but about how we achieve a more inclusive supportive society. A society that is about building and creating a future rather than looking backwards and trying to return to what we used to be like. Quite ironic how his opponents talk about the past and Jeremy talks about the future. They call him anti american, anti europe, anti british and anti semitic and he only talks about wanting more positive relations.

Quite simply a positive vision against a bankrupt corrupt and negative system. Thats why hundreds of thousands flood to hear the vision and join the Labour Party to support it.

missed that one
found myself nodding
great interview
looking forward to Saturday

 

[Doc Lynam]

A positive vision for the future not about Jeremy Corbyn but about how we achieve a more inclusive supportive society. A society that is about building and creating a future rather than looking backwards and trying to return to what we used to be like. Quite ironic how his opponents talk about the past and Jeremy talks about the future. They call him anti american, anti europe, anti british and anti semitic and he only talks about wanting more positive relations.

Quite simply a positive vision against a bankrupt corrupt and negative system. Thats why hundreds of thousands flood to hear the vision and join the Labour Party to support it.

Might interest some on here a documentary by one of our best, Adam Curtis; on how Politicians in particular the Tories kept and keep harking on about how great Britain was and 'trust us we'll make Britain great again.' Couple of years old now but still pertinent.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I don't think there is much on NSC that leads me to believe there are many 'raving right' posters around here. The odd comment, maybe, but few and far between