Jeremy Corbyn makes most idiotic statement yet., after work drinks are sexist !!

[Soulman]

Basically that he wishes to impose his own ill thought out whingey whiney opinions onto others?

And the "whingey whiney" support this plum.

 

[melias shoes]

And the "whingey whiney" support this plum.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

 

[jakarta]

Taken from Iain Martin's column:

“It’s got to stop. It’s got to end. And the behaviour of companies that encourages an ethic of early evening socialisation in order to promote themselves within the company benefits men who don’t feel they need to be at home looking after their children and it discriminates against women who want to, obviously, look after the children that they’ve got.”

Let’s take it one step at a time in an effort to work out what Corbyn thinks he is going on about:


1) Early evening socialisation. Who says that? Drink after work, or sport, or conversations at the bus stop, or coffee and a gossip, will do.

2) In the process of trying to please his audience he blunders into suggesting that it is automatic that it will be women who feel they have to get home “obviously” to “look after the children that they’ve got”. The children that they’ve got?

3) What if drink is involved and the company is paying for some or all of the booze to encourage comradely activity and boost morale? Most of us – women and men – tend to like that, as long as the boss leaves early enough and karaoke is not involved.

4) Are grown adults in the UK really being forced against their will to drink in the pub? Any man getting home late and claiming to his partner that this is the case is lying. He is there because he likes the pub.

5) Remember Corbyn has never worked in a company so has no experience of work outside politics. There are exceptions, but modern companies tend not to promote those who have been indulging in an excess of “early evening socialisation” if that involves getting smashed every night of the week. With such cases they are more likely to get the human resources department involved.

6) How is any of this to be policed or stopped? Will council inspectors tour pubs or leisure centres looking for men engaged in the disgraceful act of early evening socialisation? What’s the point? Isn’t there more for a government to worry about?

http://reaction.life/after-work-pint-tories-can-spend-next-decade-in-the-pub/

I genuinely would love to hear your response [MENTION=29192]Brighton Lines[/MENTION] on the clear sexism implied in Corbyn's speech and on the hypocrisy of Corbyn making this speech to union members at 7pm in the evening where afterwards there was a bit of a social-do.

Marvellous work from the Boy Martin but I'm a bit miffed you didn't include his final paragraph where he shares my opinion that JC must be a Tory Mole...

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Just seen that Corbyn is 1-16 to win the leadership election. Seems bizarre that he is so popular with the membership, and so unpopular with his MPs.

and, indeed, unpopular with most of the 9.5m that voted for Labour at the last general election I expect

 

[Diablo]

Jeremy Corbyn makes most idiotic statement yet

Something he excels at.......Wait for the next one..

 

[melias shoes]

Something he excels at.......Wait for the next one..

It shouldn't be long.

 

[Paul Reids Sock]

Don't be silly, sexism doesn't work against men.

You're right of course. I've been a very silly man.

Probably spending too much time around those pesky women

 

[Surf's Up]

and, indeed, unpopular with most of the 9.5m that voted for Labour at the last general election I expect

Power in the Labour Party is now vested in "the members". The voters and the MPs who the voters who elected them are an irrelevance.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Just as Brexit was a vote against the establishment and an inclusive forward looking world view, so may votes for Corbyn in a future election.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

I don't think people are 'falling' for anything here. It's not a trivial issue that the Leader of the Opposition is so remote from family life in 2016 that he thinks that going home after work to look after the family is the preserve of mums, but not dads.

More generally, he is hopelessly out of touch with the people whose votes he needs in order to win a general election. His hapless opposition does a disservice to just about everyone in the UK other than The Conservative Party, for whom it appears set to guarantee another decade or so of uninterrupted power!

Good grief! Is that what you think Corbyn is saying?

He was surely saying something quite different ... anyone who stays behind after work is disrupting the family life of the people who are waiting at home for the worker to return.

It's nothing whatsoever to do with the gender of the worker, other than the undoubtedly true sociological fact that such behaviour is more often done by men.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Good grief! Is that what you think Corbyn is saying?

He was surely saying something quite different ... anyone who stays behind after work is disrupting the family life of the people who are waiting at home for the worker to return.

It's nothing whatsoever to do with the gender of the worker, other than the undoubtedly true sociological fact that such behaviour is more often done by men.

Yes I agree, it is nothing to do with the gender of the worker. However JC said,quite explicitly,the opposite. That is why there is a thread about it.
I don't think for one moment that JC is knowingly sexist but he is completely out of touch with the lives of ordinary people and his ill informed contributions to important debates combined with his rather authoritarian manner make him an inappropriate choice for high office. I understand the yearning for a true candidate of the left after years of Tory and Blairite rule but JC is a product of middle class, metropolitan London and his concerns are not the concerns of the people he purports to represent.
Labour will be trounced at the next election because people will not vote for student politics. All a lot of people are saying is lets recognize that now rather than wait for the inevitable before making the change.

 

[dingodan]

So what he is basically saying is, "Mum's can't go for drinks, so nobody should go for drinks".

The idea being that this would create a sense of "equality", because now there are no "haves" and "have nots". Instead there are just "have nots".

I can't wait to live under Corbyn's socialist utopia, I'm sure it's going to be a real hoot.

 

[Questions]

Me and my wife made sure we both got ratarsed before we picked our kids up from childminders. It's all about equality and responsible parenting.

 

[Billy the Fish]

The idea being that this would create a sense of "equality", because now there are no "haves" and "have nots". Instead there are just "have nots".

That's also Jezza and John's economic policy in a nutshell!

 

[BeardyChops]

One thing for sure that Corbyn has done is to illustrate how rabidly sections of the media and of the population in general will pounce on irrelevancies. I wonder if he made any other points in his speeches that people might agree with, whether they'd like to admit it or not?

We've become even more of a soundbite, instant gratification, seize upon easy targets society. The quickest to react are often the loudest, and excepting the few really intelligent are often those who really don't want to, or can't, take a considered view.

Sad really.

 

[Hampster Gull]

One thing for sure that Corbyn has done is to illustrate how rabidly sections of the media and of the population in general will pounce on irrelevancies. I wonder if he made any other points in his speeches that people might agree with, whether they'd like to admit it or not?

We've become even more of a soundbite, instant gratification, seize upon easy targets society. The quickest to react are often the loudest, and excepting the few really intelligent are often those who really don't want to, or can't, take a considered view.

Sad really.

The guy is a political dinosaur, its correct that the media report his nonsense

 

[yxee]

One thing for sure that Corbyn has done is to illustrate how rabidly sections of the media and of the population in general will pounce on irrelevancies. I wonder if he made any other points in his speeches that people might agree with, whether they'd like to admit it or not?

We've become even more of a soundbite, instant gratification, seize upon easy targets society. The quickest to react are often the loudest, and excepting the few really intelligent are often those who really don't want to, or can't, take a considered view.

Sad really.

That's what happens when 20% of your content is absurd 1970s politics and the other 80% is mindless platitudes.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

One thing for sure that Corbyn has done is to illustrate how rabidly sections of the media and of the population in general will pounce on irrelevancies. I wonder if he made any other points in his speeches that people might agree with, whether they'd like to admit it or not?

We've become even more of a soundbite, instant gratification, seize upon easy targets society. The quickest to react are often the loudest, and excepting the few really intelligent are often those who really don't want to, or can't, take a considered view.

Sad really.

Ah yes, the shoot the messenger argument. The media are correct in reporting this story. I happen to agree with a lot of what JC has to say about sexual discrimination but he has to take the debate into a wacky direction and that is not the fault of the press. Believe me I have considered very carefully the JC issue.
It is not irrelevant that JC wants to legislate against companies who 'allow' their male workers to socialise in the pub after work. Its downright scary and is a window into his authoritarianism.
Perhaps you think that Cameron's exploits in the Bullingdon club were also irrelevant whereas I take the view that they are an indication of the man's character.
I do accept though that no amount of debate on the subject of JC will sway the true believers. Oh well.