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Jeremy Corbyn makes most idiotic statement yet., after work drinks are sexist !!
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Never, ever will I vote for this party again. I don't care who is in, I don't care how good they are supposed to, they are just meaningless words. I will never forgive them for what they did to this country. It has never been the same since these tosspots left office. The only people who are going to help you is yourself. FACK OFF Labour, all your good at is labelling your old voters who have now cleared off, and lining your own pockets.
Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
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The guy is a throw back to the 70s and all that was wrong with the country. God help everyone (except his inner circle) if he gets in charge
Neville's Breakfast
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Where is that photo from ? Is it real or a joke ?
I'm presuming a joke where someone has superimposed the latest lunacy on to some other trendy protest ?
Paul Reids Sock
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Wow - I find that actually pretty sexist.
I am a working Dad and I don't do after work drinks. On a Friday we finish an hour early, in the hour before that we usually have a drink trolley come round. I will have that and then, when home time comes and they all run off to the pub, I come home to my family as I do feel a need to be at home with them
I am a working Dad and I don't do after work drinks. On a Friday we finish an hour early, in the hour before that we usually have a drink trolley come round. I will have that and then, when home time comes and they all run off to the pub, I come home to my family as I do feel a need to be at home with them
Can anyone believe otherwise??
- Apr 5, 2014
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So he makes an especially thoughtful speech on discrimination against women with some rather salient points and the paper runs with that headline.
Ignoring the predictable origin of this thread, and the stable of the paper that started this rubbish, can anyone tell me what is actually wrong with what he says in the video ?
Ignoring the predictable origin of this thread, and the stable of the paper that started this rubbish, can anyone tell me what is actually wrong with what he says in the video ?
Neville's Breakfast
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Sure, he said that companies discriminate against women by promoting a culture of early evening drinks after work in order for employees to progress with the company. He said this suits men and discriminates against women who 'obviously want to be at home looking after their children.'He finished that part by calling this subtle discrimination that has to be 'dealt with'.
This is laughable on many levels.
Firstly, let me declare my interest: I don't do after work drinks as I prefer to come home to spend time with my family. Whether that puts me at a disadvantage or not is none of JC's business but I note he automatically put me in the men down the pub camp .
The target of his words was clearly companies rather than employees so how is he going to 'deal with it '? How do companies promote after work drinks ? where is the evidence ? if he manages to 'deal with' these companies how are they going to stop people going for after work drinks ? how does he know the motive for after work drinks or is it not necessary to know as somehow he is only going to ban networking ?
Is it any of JC's business when one goes to the pub ?
Finally, how do childless women feel after listening to his words ? Particularly if they are listening on their phones down the pub around 6 pm..
It is one of the jobs of the Labour leader to tackle actual discrimination. In making a speech about discrimination against women which is an important progressive issue he has instead sidetracked himself with ill informed and immature comments and once again demonstrated his unsuitability for high office. He has similarly sidetracked the important race debate with mealy mouthed and tepid opposition to anti semitiscm.
This country desparately needs a progressive party with aspirations to power so it can improve lives. JC it seems has no such interest and would it appears be better suited to running for office in a student union.
Y,Y.
Buzzer
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- Oct 1, 2006
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Taken from Iain Martin's column:
“It’s got to stop. It’s got to end. And the behaviour of companies that encourages an ethic of early evening socialisation in order to promote themselves within the company benefits men who don’t feel they need to be at home looking after their children and it discriminates against women who want to, obviously, look after the children that they’ve got.”
Let’s take it one step at a time in an effort to work out what Corbyn thinks he is going on about:
1) Early evening socialisation. Who says that? Drink after work, or sport, or conversations at the bus stop, or coffee and a gossip, will do.
2) In the process of trying to please his audience he blunders into suggesting that it is automatic that it will be women who feel they have to get home “obviously” to “look after the children that they’ve got”. The children that they’ve got?
3) What if drink is involved and the company is paying for some or all of the booze to encourage comradely activity and boost morale? Most of us – women and men – tend to like that, as long as the boss leaves early enough and karaoke is not involved.
4) Are grown adults in the UK really being forced against their will to drink in the pub? Any man getting home late and claiming to his partner that this is the case is lying. He is there because he likes the pub.
5) Remember Corbyn has never worked in a company so has no experience of work outside politics. There are exceptions, but modern companies tend not to promote those who have been indulging in an excess of “early evening socialisation” if that involves getting smashed every night of the week. With such cases they are more likely to get the human resources department involved.
6) How is any of this to be policed or stopped? Will council inspectors tour pubs or leisure centres looking for men engaged in the disgraceful act of early evening socialisation? What’s the point? Isn’t there more for a government to worry about?
http://reaction.life/after-work-pint-tories-can-spend-next-decade-in-the-pub/
I genuinely would love to hear your response [MENTION=29192]Brighton Lines[/MENTION] on the clear sexism implied in Corbyn's speech and on the hypocrisy of Corbyn making this speech to union members at 7pm in the evening where afterwards there was a bit of a social-do.
Blue Valkyrie
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So the creeping police-nanny state wants to stop us drinking after work ?
Strewth.
Strewth.
yxee
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Don't be silly, sexism doesn't work against men.
Deano's Invisible Pants
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- Mar 1, 2008
- 1,133
I don't think people are 'falling' for anything here. It's not a trivial issue that the Leader of the Opposition is so remote from family life in 2016 that he thinks that going home after work to look after the family is the preserve of mums, but not dads.
More generally, he is hopelessly out of touch with the people whose votes he needs in order to win a general election. His hapless opposition does a disservice to just about everyone in the UK other than The Conservative Party, for whom it appears set to guarantee another decade or so of uninterrupted power!
Spot on.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Therein lies the real tragedy.
sydney
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it's amazing...i was sure that Andy Pandy had passed on to the great laundry basket in the sky but apparently here he is writing Labours ' speeches....that really is one out of the anus of the universe...!!
Basically that he wishes to impose his own ill thought out whingey whiney opinions onto others?