Tooting Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Perhaps they care more about their country than the Labour Party ?
They care about succeeding him.
Perhaps they care more about their country than the Labour Party ?
Voted in with a huge mandate, which obviously means there are many that support his views. .....worrying isn't it.If they genuinely cared about the Labour Party, rather than their own future ambitions, they would not score so many public own goals against their own party. Corbyn was voted in, rightly or wrongly, with a huge mandate by Labour Party members and it is highly disrespectful of MPs towards their own members to from day one secretly, or not so secretly, try and make sure he is out as soon as possible.
Yes, yes he is what he has been labelled, playing fast and loose with UK security policy.
Wasn't more funding announced today for fighting cyber attacks, and also for more special forces ?If anyone is playing fast and loose with security policy, it's the Conservative Party.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-cuts-forces-will-have-to-merge-specialist-firearms-cyber-crime-and-fraud-units-says-theresa-a6729386.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/chris-hobbs/police-cuts-theresa-may-terrorism_b_8575522.html
Tristram Hunt doesn't have any principles. And to hear some of these clowns talk (many of whom WERE in the shadow cabinet) you'd think Corbyn had taken Labour from a government with a majority of about 200 to the wilderness. Has everyone forgotten about the General Election drubbing? He can't exactly be blamed for that.
Listen I'm not stupid, I knew Corbyn as leader was a big risk for Labour, and his stance on various things was fair game for scrutiny. But I have to say, even expecting it I have been shocked by the malicious, agenda-driven and personal nature of the coverage since his landslide win. Everything that can be used and spun against him is being used, anything that might show him in a better light is being left out.
Wasn't more funding announced today for fighting cyber attacks, and also for more special forces ?
You don't think they have increased their capability of dealing with a Paris type situation ? If that is your view, I disagree. I reckon they have.And that will help the frontline police force cope with a Paris type situation how, exactly? Will it enable them to put boots on the ground in the same way as the French did? Or is it a token measure to protect London and not worry about anywhere else in the country?
Oh go on then, we'll share it
You don't think they have increased their capability of dealing with a Paris type situation ? If that is your view, I disagree. I reckon they have.
And that will help the frontline police force cope with a Paris type situation how, exactly? Will it enable them to put boots on the ground in the same way as the French did? Or is it a token measure to protect London and not worry about anywhere else in the country?
At times and a charged climate like we're in at the moment, it is easy for an unscrupulous government to carry out all sorts of actions and rush through all sorts of additional legislation that impact on civil liberties.
Frankly it is up to people like Corbyn to stand up against the populist grain, often to great personal cost in terms of abuse from a right-wing press, and express concerns about these things. Ideally I'd have liked to have seen the 'Jihadi John' character caught, interrogated for information that could prevent further attacks and atrocities, and then imprisoned for life. That said (and I did say 'ideally') I know full well it is not always possible to safely extract such individuals, and I'd rather he was bombed than a single UK soldier's life was lost trying to get him out.
One of the problems for me is that I have heard so much ridiculous criticism already of Corbyn from people led by the nose by the Mail, Sun and Telegraph, that there is a certain weariness hearing more of it even if he goes too far and gets things wrong.
And I have absolutely no sympathy for some of these PLP idiots. If they don't have more in common with Corbyn than Cameron, join the Tories. It is shameful the way they have knifed the bloke in the back from day one.
Bore off ffs
The only f**king disgrace are the weasels that the current PLP is infested with. Sooner they quit the better.
They were voted in by their constituents or don't you believe in democracy?
I do believe Jeremy Corbyn was elected by 60% of the membership of the labour parry and has added hundreds of thousands of new members to the party since the result of that election I think it is the PLP that has a problem with democracy.