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Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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That is one of the most disgraceful decisions ever!

Nope, removing Hamilton's win and giving it to Massa in Monza still holds that title, especially if you've seen the footage of both Schumacher and Alsono doing the same in recent seasons and not being penalised in any way.
 




Frutos

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May 3, 2006
36,308
Northumberland
Nope, removing Hamilton's win and giving it to Massa in Monza still holds that title, especially if you've seen the footage of both Schumacher and Alsono doing the same in recent seasons and not being penalised in any way.

Spa, wasn't it?
 


Scotty Mac

New member
Jul 13, 2003
24,405
hamilton-cocks-up-in-first-corner-yet-it-is-a-ferrari-conspiracy-shocker!
 




Kneon Light

Well-known member
Jul 24, 2003
1,851
Falkland Islands
hamilton-cocks-up-in-first-corner-yet-it-is-a-ferrari-conspiracy-shocker!

Funny how the car that crashed into Coulthard and ended his race wasn't punished.
Also strange that LOADS of cars were forced off the track on the first corner (as they are in almost every race) yet the only one given a penalty for it was Hamilton.
Also strange how Massa causes a crash with a car with no-where to go and yet gets put up a place for it.

Yep. You're right there is no favouring of Ferrari at all!
 




Jul 5, 2003
12,644
Chertsey
Also strange that LOADS of cars were forced off the track on the first corner (as they are in almost every race) yet the only one given a penalty for it was Hamilton.


Yep. You're right there is no favouring of Ferrari at all!

Hamilton just pointed that out - sounded well pissed off with it, with good reason!!!
 




Gritt23

New member
Jul 7, 2003
14,902
Meopham, Kent.
hamilton-cocks-up-in-first-corner-yet-it-is-a-ferrari-conspiracy-shocker!

I think it's more to do with the fact that you ALWAYS get incidents at the first corer - I know people who only watch that part of the race every week - and yet no-one ever gets punished, until we are looking at Lewis Hamilton. All this gets compounded when you see the exact same penalty go to Massa for out breaking into a corner, running off the track and then taking out the guy who passes him in the corner. Erm, isn't that "gaining an advantage" from cutting a corner on Massa's part?

Quite how Bourdais gets punished for having a Ferrari drive into him is quite beyond me though.

There can be no doubt that the rules are VERY different when it involves Ferrari, and it's threatening to destroy the sport just as it's threatening to get exciting again. Anyone trying to overtake - especially a Ferrari - is in danger of a serious penalty, and discouraging overtaking maneouvres in that way is REALLY not good for the sport.
 




Gritt23

New member
Jul 7, 2003
14,902
Meopham, Kent.
Also, Massa now appears to be allowed to use the pit lane to dip into for overtaking.


That was a strangely pointless move by Massa, as surely he could have just pulled in behind Webber again, waved his arms in frustration and had Webber black flagged for obstructing a Ferrari.
 


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