Jacob Rees Mogg

[severnside gull]

I wonder is there a politician in recent times that can rival Mogg and his astounding knowledge of parliamentary procedure and has also managed to easily explain such procedures to the general public like he is capable of.
The last guy i remember that had this gift was Tony Benn.
It seems he is now the go to guy for the major news channels on procedure.
Is he the Brian cox of politics?
he is fast becoming one of my fav MP`s alongside Dennis Skinner and Hilary Benn as cracking assets to our parliament, someone that crosses the divide and gains respect from all sides.

any other moggers?

Nope. The man has an astounding inability to understand anyone who wasn't born with a silver spoon in their mouth and who didn't attend one of the better public schools. May even just me but people come above procedures when it comes to an MP'S skill set.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

- A product of an unjust inequitable class based system
- Deeply illiberal
- Insanely right wing
- I hate almost everything he stands for

But:

- You know where you stand
- He does not pretend to be something he isn't
- He appears to be geuinely polite and civil in the way he conducts his politics

So a mixed bag but on balance I am probably team Moggers

That is exactly how I feel about him, but the first group are far more important than the second, you could name many who fill the second batch.
Also, he strikes me as the type of person who 'dresses' for bed with initialled night attire (including his slippers)
with the collar of his pyjamas outside of his dressing gown and I don't like people who do that.
So for those reasons I'm out.

 

[alfredmizen]

I might be wrong here but his views on gay marriage doesn't mean that he's anti-gay. I believe he does support same-sex civil partnerships but he is specifically against the idea that marriage can be between anyone other than a man or a woman. There are also many gay people who hold this view - Christopher Biggins being a well-known example.

Which is exactly where I stand.

 

[ManOfSussex]

OK, so putting the inheritance thing to one side (no one can help being born into wealth or poverty), what it comes down to is whether you think he works harder than others who earn less. He's worked hard throughout his life. He hasn't sat on his hands and spent the last 40 years lazing around doing nothing and living a life of luxury. He is ultimately a public servant.

From what I've seen and heard from him, he's different to most establishment figures - he isn't arrogant and doesn't come across as superior. That is why I and a few others on this thread have come to respect him.

I thought it was meant to be a socialist thing that you should never judge. I would certainly never judge a man on where he was born or how much he's inherited; I judge him on his character, achievements and personality. I'm sure you've made a success out of your life ManOfSussex...regardless of your upbringing, don't let envy cloud your perspective. It will do you no favours.

I'm no socialist and I wouldn't assume or presume to suggest that I or anyone has made a success of my life - I have not, ultimately. That's the peril of not being born British and upper class. There are winners are losers. Shame that in the UK you've more chance of being a winner if you have the background of Jacob Rees-Mogg though.

I'm off to cook my Chicken, mushroom, and pasta dinner now bought in Morrison's, as I don't have a nanny to do it for me. Incidentally, if Jacob Rees-Mogg ever wanted to take a half day on a Friday and pop into Yates' in Hastings Town centre, I'd buy him a club soda, so long as he'd agree to buy me a Guinness next time I'm in his club on Mayfair.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Biggest **** in politics. An absolute dinosaur from another age who needs to return to that time via a time machine. How can people like this still exist and have any semblance of power in 2016? Do gauge how high he scores on the **** scale, simply watch his 3 interviews promoting (in turn) Johnson, Gove then May during the Tory leadership election (from Crick's Brexit documentary). He never got the cabinet job he so despartely wanted because he is an Utter ****.

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Solid and sound. No Waffle.

 

[Hastings gull]

I'm no socialist and I wouldn't assume or presume to suggest that I or anyone has made a success of my life - I have not, ultimately. That's the peril of not being born British and upper class. There are winners are losers. Shame that in the UK you've more chance of being a winner if you have the background of Jacob Rees-Mogg though.

I'm off to cook my Chicken, mushroom, and pasta dinner now bought in Morrison's, as I don't have a nanny to do it for me. Incidentally, if Jacob Rees-Mogg ever wanted to take a half day on a Friday and pop into Yates' in Hastings Town centre, I'd buy him a club soda, so long as he'd agree to buy me a Guinness next time I'm in his club on Mayfair.

I think you will find that millions have made a success of their life and yet were not born with the advantages you mention. If you have not done so, then perhaps it might be just down to you. Of course money will help you to get on in life, but it is not the only thing.

 

[knocky1]

I might be wrong here but his views on gay marriage doesn't mean that he's anti-gay. I believe he does support same-sex civil partnerships but he is specifically against the idea that marriage can be between anyone other than a man or a woman. There are also many gay people who hold this view - Christopher Biggins being a well-known example.

Which is exactly where I stand.

That's exactly how I imagined you. I'm right again.

 

[Stato]

I wonder is there a politician in recent times that can rival Mogg and his astounding knowledge of parliamentary procedure and has also managed to easily explain such procedures to the general public like he is capable of.
The last guy i remember that had this gift was Tony Benn.
It seems he is now the go to guy for the major news channels on procedure.
Is he the Brian cox of politics?
he is fast becoming one of my fav MP`s alongside Dennis Skinner and Hilary Benn as cracking assets to our parliament, someone that crosses the divide and gains respect from all sides.

any other moggers?

This self serving deliberate misinterpretation of the relationship between Parliament and the Executive shows that he is certainly not an honourable traditionalist who values the supremacy of parliament or the rule of law unless it provides the political decision he agrees with. A weasel in owl's clothing.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/72...t-Parliament-Article-50-triggered-IMMEDIATELY

 

[ofco8]

"The gruel gets thinner". Ever since I heard those words in the Commons I have been a massive fan. Great fellah.

 

[ManOfSussex]

I think you will find that millions have made a success of their life and yet were not born with the advantages you mention. If you have not done so, then perhaps it might be just down to you. Of course money will help you to get on in life, but it is not the only thing.

Success is very subjective, but I don't disagree with what you've said, but I wasn't saying that you can't be a success in life without being born into privilege. It does help though.

 

[KingKev]

- A product of an unjust inequitable class based system
- Deeply illiberal
- Insanely right wing
- I hate almost everything he stands for

But:

- You know where you stand
- He does not pretend to be something he isn't
- He appears to be geuinely polite and civil in the way he conducts his politics

So a mixed bag but on balance I am probably team Moggers

This.

 

[alfredmizen]

That's exactly how I imagined you. I'm right again.

You need to find a hobby, I mean , if sitting there imagining my stance on gay marriage is what passes the time for you ........

 

[vegster]

Is he the replacement " People's Politician " for Boris Johnson? The Boris Johnson who was subsequently shown up to be duplicitous,inept, womanising political chancer?

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

Is he the replacement " People's Politician " for Boris Johnson? The Boris Johnson who was subsequently shown up to be duplicitous,inept, womanising political chancer?

They're both unashamed about being educated and both drop the odd bit of Latin into the conversation, which I applaud. But Rees-Mogg's condemnation of Mark Carney even though he was the only person who did anything to prevent the annihilation of the pound after the Brexit vote caused me to revise my opinion of him downward.

 

[knocky1]

You need to find a hobby, I mean , if sitting there imagining my stance on gay marriage is what passes the time for you ........

No, you misunderstood I imagined you as a Christopher Biggins type. You have a lot in common.

 

[alfredmizen]

No, you misunderstood I imagined you as a Christopher Biggins type. You have a lot in common.

My advice still applies , imagining what I'm like at all is very sad , perhaps there are groups for people like you, who find it hard to make friends and interact socially.

 

[BigGully]

They're both unashamed about being educated and both drop the odd bit of Latin into the conversation, which I applaud. But Rees-Mogg's condemnation of Mark Carney even though he was the only person who did anything to prevent the annihilation of the pound after the Brexit vote caused me to revise my opinion of him downward.

But Carney is paid to react to circumstance, and very handsomely too, whether a cut in interest or quantitive easing is an obvious preventitive measure I am not so sure, but if it is, thats no more than doing his job.

Rees-Moggs challenege to Carney was how he did some of the goverments/Remain bidding in the run up to the referendum, no other previous Bank of England governer has ever commented one way or the other on how an election outcome might effect the UK's economy, never not once, he is meant to be totally impartial no matter what he might think, he isnt a politician and his role is clear.

Just a reminder, what he forecast and said would happen if Brexit did win didnt happen anyway, so however you flip it, he didnt act accordingly.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

They're both unashamed about being educated and both drop the odd bit of Latin into the conversation, which I applaud. But Rees-Mogg's condemnation of Mark Carney even though he was the only person who did anything to prevent the annihilation of the pound after the Brexit vote caused me to revise my opinion of him downward.

I'd agree with this. I think Carney is perfectly entitled to give the BoE's thoughts on the matter. If the BoE governor cannot give his thoughts on the economy what's the point? It's about being open and transparent. As Theresa May is finding out, it would have been wrong to keep his thoughts private.

I'm pleased he's at the helm; history is showing once again he is a calm and assured pair of hands keeping the economy afloat in incredibly difficult times. We're very lucky to have him.

 

[Hastings gull]

Success is very subjective, but I don't disagree with what you've said, but I wasn't saying that you can't be a success in life without being born into privilege. It does help though.

Yes, agreed. Thanks.