[Food] I've gone a bit vegan

[beorhthelm]

Totally agree with this, as a vegetarian of over 40 years standing. Our local Pizza place has no "vegetarian" pizzas, apart from a boring margarita option,

cant order with choice of toppings?

 

[Triggaaar]

I know it is very popular to be a vegan for health reasons, and I have to admit that the people I know who are vegans look very good on it. The bit I don't get is giving up eating fish. I was always told that fish was very healthy. I totally understand not eating fish if you are against eating animals, just not for health reasons.
Being vegan is to stop killing animals, it's not for health. Eating meat and other animal products is healthy (as with other things, in moderation).

But the question I was trying to asking is why do some people become Vegan purely for health reasons ?

Either because they have allergies etc, or due to a lack of education.

Some sports people have adopted the vegan diet purely to boost performance levels.

But surely some mackerel or salmon wouldn't also be beneficial?

And many other animal products. Humans evolved over millions of years, on a mixed diet of both animal and plant based foods. Lots of it is good for us.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Tried the impossible burger in BK last week.

Must admit it was nicer than the normal burgers.

 

[Bakero]

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Defoe had long since been a convert to daily spinach, kale and nettle smoothies, has cut out chocolate and limits his caffeine intake to match-days. While the steamed vegetables remain on the menu, the grilled salmon which had sustained him even up to the end of last year has been cut out, along with eggs, dairy products and honey. “In terms of fitness and fatigue towards the end of games, I still feel good,” he said. “I’m trying. I still enjoy training, the buzz is still there and I just want to try to play as long as I can. So I do the stuff that will give me the best opportunity to perform and score goals.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/27/jermain-defoe-england-striker-lithuania

I'm not saying he's right or wrong but Defoe isn't the only one I've seen that has mentioned switching to a vegan diet for performance/health reasons

 

[Mtoto]

I know it is very popular to be a vegan for health reasons, and I have to admit that the people I know who are vegans look very good on it. The bit I don't get is giving up eating fish. I was always told that fish was very healthy. I totally understand not eating fish if you are against eating animals, just not for health reasons.
Being vegan is to stop killing animals, it's not for health. Eating meat and other animal products is healthy (as with other things, in moderation).

Either because they have allergies etc, or due to a lack of education.



And many other animal products. Humans evolved over millions of years, on a mixed diet of both animal and plant based foods. Lots of it is good for us.

Being vegetarian is to stop killing animals. Being vegan is to stop using animals for anything at all - meat, dairy, shoe leather, the lot.

 

[Bakero]

Being vegetarian is to stop killing animals. Being vegan is to stop using animals for anything at all - meat, dairy, shoe leather, the lot.

Plenty of death in eggs and dairy.

 

[Dick Head]

Grand scheme of things isnt going to make a lot of difference.

Will it save you a few months life - possible but unlikely
Will it stop you ageing - no
Can you still get cancers and other diseases being Vegan - yes
Do you look a nob being a vegan - most defiently

Not worth it.

By all means be healthy but its a level too far.

You most defiently look a nob.

 

[Mr Banana]

Ok...bear with me...

Burgers
One x can mixed lentils
One x can mixed beans
Three x crushed garlic cloves
One x grated carrot
Two x diced spring onions
Ample breadcrumbs
Curry powder, cumin

Mix it all up

Bit of oil on a tray, shape that mix into burgers, whack it in the oven for ten x minutes

Dressing: Diced cucumber
Greek yogyog
Sliced mint (or any 'erb)
Chutney
Bit of green salad

Take burger out, stick between tha's choice of bread, stick the dressing on top

Why yes, I have got one more and it's beetroot quinoa

One x small red onion
Two x cloves of garlic
Three x raw beetroot
Two x raw carrots
One x stock cube
Quinoa

This makes four

Chop the onion very finely and fry in a drizzle of oil for between three and four minutes
Add the garlic (crushed like Dan Burn in an igloo)
Fry for two-to-three
Add four x portions of quinoa according to packet, rinsed first
Fry for three-to-four

Use the stock cube to make up stock in quantity suggested by quinoa packet
Add to pan and simmer with lid on for ten minutes

Grate the carrot and peel and grate the beetroot. When the ten x minutes is up, add that to the quinoa in the pan and cook for ten-to-15 x minutes longer, until quinoa is cooked

Serve! Nice with a drizzle of balsamic vinegar and a salad. Also tasty with a sprinkle of sunflower seeds.

I've got more of this crap on request. The benefits of having no life: time to cook, get reasonably fit and post on NSC

 

[Whitechapel]

Agreed this is the best approach.
I don't think I could go totally vegan but have dramatically cut back on meat.
We are using up meat in the freezer and looking to use quorn or similar but here there isn't much choice of meat replacements,just prepared ready meals using quorn or Linda McCartney products which are really expensive.

I have stopped drinking alcohol 3 days a week and will increase this by a day at a time over the next few months but not sure if I want to stop all together. Thinking of going for quality over quantity and having maybe 2 bottles of nice wine per week. (Cue some clever so and so editing to per day )
Was originally motivated by climate and cruelty regards to animals and weight with alcohol.
Now, since a recent blood test, have 6 months to get my glucose levels down or face the risk on diabetes medication.stil
I have lost 16 kilos in the last few years and now I have retired am getting more exercise so here's hoping.

You certainly couldn’t go totally vegan if you’re replacing meat with Quorn. A lot of their products aren’t vegan friendly.

 

[Bakero]

Agreed this is the best approach.
I don't think I could go totally vegan but have dramatically cut back on meat.
We are using up meat in the freezer and looking to use quorn or similar but here there isn't much choice of meat replacements,just prepared ready meals using quorn or Linda McCartney products which are really expensive.

Why not replace the meat with vegetables?

 

[Hampster Gull]

Eat a bit of meat, keep animals in jobs

 

[Triggaaar]

Defoe had long since been a convert to daily spinach, kale and nettle smoothies, has cut out chocolate and limits his caffeine intake to match-days. While the steamed vegetables remain on the menu, the grilled salmon which had sustained him even up to the end of last year has been cut out, along with eggs, dairy products and honey. “In terms of fitness and fatigue towards the end of games, I still feel good,” he said. “I’m trying. I still enjoy training, the buzz is still there and I just want to try to play as long as I can. So I do the stuff that will give me the best opportunity to perform and score goals.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/27/jermain-defoe-england-striker-lithuania

I'm not saying he's right or wrong but Defoe isn't the only one I've seen that has mentioned switching to a vegan diet for performance/health reasons

Firstly, Defoe isn't a great example of a leading athlete in their prime. He's not breaking world records for speed, endurance, strength etc. And secondly, in the link you posted, he said 'I’m trying to turn vegan.' So he wasn't even a vegan.

Meanwhile, the fastest, fittest, strongest people on the planet, are not vegans. Being vegan does not help a normal healthy adult boost their sporting performance.

 

[Triggaaar]

Being vegetarian is to stop killing animals. Being vegan is to stop using animals for anything at all - meat, dairy, shoe leather, the lot.

That's wrong. If you're a vegetarian, but not a vegan, then animals are still dying to provide your animal produce.

Eating eggs? Enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=...me_continue=56&v=4yaOVvzkyA8&feature=emb_logo

 

[Bakero]

Firstly, Defoe isn't a great example of a leading athlete in their prime. He's not breaking world records for speed, endurance, strength etc. And secondly, in the link you posted, he said 'I’m trying to turn vegan.' So he wasn't even a vegan.

Meanwhile, the fastest, fittest, strongest people on the planet, are not vegans. Being vegan does not help a normal healthy adult boost their sporting performance.

[MENTION=28899]Biscuit Barrel[/MENTION] said "Some sports people have adopted the vegan diet purely to boost performance levels." Defoe is an example of that. Like I said, I'm not sure what effect it has had on his conditioning.

 

[banjo]

Each to their own. I love veggie food, but that sausage roll with black pudding at the ground.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

So, my brother went vegan a few months ago, and lost about 2 stone in a flash. I thought, maybe i could return to that lifestyle too, after being it for a while in my teens. The problem i am having, though, is that i am perhaps going about it in a different/wrong way. Having a Vegan Magnum constantly near me, and then in me, isn't enabling me to mirror his results. So a crisps, Hellmans Vegan Mayonnaise and dairy free chocolate ice cream on a stick diet can't be classed as a great achievement.
I think i need to get on with making some nice meals again, but within 25 minutes and easy to form, after making the little one his dindins as soon as i am in from work.
Any suggestions?

Ta

Wafer thin Ham.

 

[Dick Head]

Full programme - Football Going Vegan - https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p07phy2j/football-going-vegan

 

[Mr Putdown]

Being vegetarian is to stop killing animals. Being vegan is to stop using animals for anything at all - meat, dairy, shoe leather, the lot.

Lol, our local pest controller is vegan.

I like him.

 

[Nixonator]

I can barely remember what it tastes like now

It tastes nice.

 

[Mr Putdown]

Being vegetarian is to stop killing animals. Being vegan is to stop using animals for anything at all - meat, dairy, shoe leather, the lot.

Lol, our local pest controller is vegan.