I've been told by my docs that I've got to give up drinking

[eastlondonseagull]

Re: Re: I've been told by my docs that I've got to give up drinking

Not good mate, sorry to hear that. Is moving on to non alcoholic stuff feesable (sp?) i.e. kaliber or Sutter Home Fre? They also do a non alcoholic Becks now.

Might give them a try, Chez, but it's the sensation of being pissed that's enjoyable, and I can't see a pint of Billy Connolly doing that

Will just have to kill myself on all the chemicals in diet coke instead

 

[Lokki 7]

However cocaine does increase your heartrate and blood pressure which will be bad for the blood vessels haemorraging in your eyes. Unfortunately.

 

[chez]

Re: Re: Re: I've been told by my docs that I've got to give up drinking

Might give them a try, Chez, but it's the sensation of being pissed that's enjoyable, and I can't see a pint of Billy Connolly doing that

Will just have to kill myself on all the chemicals in diet coke instead

True, but it may make the "actually being in the pub" bit slightly easier. I know you like your wine so the Sutter Home stuff might be good to go with dinner at home.

 

[only1robbiereinalt]

As I write this from my hosital bed, I promise you that they are good for you.


Actually, can you have too much vitamin c? Not hijacking the thread ELS....

Learnt about that in nutrition a few weeks ago, i cant be bothered to check notes to save your life, but i can garuntee 10-12 satsumas a day is doing you ridiculous harm

 

[Everest]

You can always try putting the glass in your mouth, instead of your eyes.

 

[B.M.F]

That is shit news Tim It is not really a difficult choice though matey. You have 2 choices bud. Carry on drinking and you will never be able to watch the Albion or give up drinking and watch the greatest team in the world grace Withdean and then Falmer for many years to come

Obviously I will not suggest Dirty Rugs as an alternative as you know my views on them so what you should do is set yourself a goal and that way it will help you forget about the fact that you have to stop drinking. Something like a Marathon or some other challenge may help matey. Heck if you do that I will even train to do it too

 

[chip]

Sorry to hear that ELS, diabetic retinopathy is the largest single cause of blindness as I am sure that you are aware - but it is better than liver failure. Have you had CVD screening etc.? I've had about four pints in as many years because one of my children has some medical conditions and I'm too scared of not being able to do anything if I need to. Its a simple choice though that can be helped with support of friends and family, good luck it is worth it. Lots more specific information here (if you don't already know): http://medweb.bham.ac.uk/easdec/

On a brighter note, there is some interesting work at the moment with statins, ACE inhibitors, exercise protocols, etc. that looks very promising in containing some of the more serious (organ related) consequences of diabetes. The work on islet cell transplants has been progressing and a few more successful treatments have been effected by Shapiro and his team.

If you want to get off your face, try eating hash cakes. May mess around with the BG but supposedly good for glaucoma.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

Sorry to hear that ELS, diabetic retinopathy is the largest single cause of blindness as I am sure that you are aware - but it is better than liver failure. Have you had CVD screening etc.? I've had about four pints in as many years because one of my children has some medical conditions and I'm too scared of not being able to do anything if I need to. Its a simple choice though that can be helped with support of friends and family, good luck it is worth it. Lots more specific information here (if you don't already know): http://medweb.bham.ac.uk/easdec/

On a brighter note, there is some interesting work at the moment with statins, ACE inhibitors, exercise protocols, etc. that looks very promising in containing some of the more serious (organ related) consequences of diabetes. The work on islet cell transplants has been progressing and a few more successful treatments have been effected by Shapiro and his team.

If you want to get off your face, try eating hash cakes. May mess around with the BG but supposedly good for glaucoma.

Thanks Chip, much appreciated. Am having a browse through that link, now. Some interesting stuff on there.

As for missing the Albion because of blindness, BMF, you're right mate. No matter how shite we are sometimes, there's always room for a giggle when I mistake Paul Camllin for a player

 

[B.M.F]

Thanks Chip, much appreciated. Am having a browse through that link, now. Some interesting stuff on there.

As for missing the Albion because of blindness, BMF, you're right mate. No matter how shite we are sometimes, there's always room for a giggle when I mistake Paul Camllin for a player

Moment of the season for me matey

 

[eastlondonseagull]

Moment of the season for me matey

Always like to make you laugh

 

[Bluejuice]

I have an addiction to pub lunches.

Not altogether unhealthy, but it can be costly

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

As I write this from my hosital bed, I promise you that they are good for you.


Actually, can you have too much vitamin c? Not hijacking the thread ELS....

Course its bad for you!

 

[Eddie the Seagull]

Drink a pint of carrot juice for each pint you neck.

I'm Diabetic luckily my eyesight was 20/20 in my last test.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

Losing your sight is shitty.

On the plus side, give the club a ring - Leon Knight left his Guide Dog here when he moved to Swansea, 'cos the little shit can see the bloody goal now!

Sorry. Can it be recovered through surgery, or is it deeper than that?

 

[eastlondonseagull]

On the plus side, give the club a ring - Leon Knight left his Guide Dog here when he moved to Swansea, 'cos the little shit can see the bloody goal now!

Sorry. Can it be recovered through surgery, or is it deeper than that?

If I sort myself out, ie. not drinking, smoking and controlling sugars, it'll slow the problems down and I could be ok. Laser surgery later down the line could be an option. But if I just carry on boozing, it'll deteriorate rapidly.

At the moment, my sight's fine, I've not noticed any trouble, but they took photos of my retinas this morning and saw about five or six haemorrages.

If I sort out the drinking etc, they should go away, and the sight won't be affected. The laser surgery can help (to some extent), but any damage that's been done to the actual eyesight cannot be reversed, so once they're f***ed, they're f***ed. I think that's right anyway

Most diabetics start getting eye problems after they've had it about 20 years, and I've had diabetes 23 years now, so it's par for the course. But the docs have warned it will get much much worse unless I sort out the drinking.

 

[NMH]

Well the satsumas suggestion, funny though it is, does point to a simple fact; that you could do lots of other things rather than drink alcohol. Boozing is always devastating to diabetics anyway, it messes with your blood levels and makes things exceedingly unpredictable.

Having said that, it's difficult to give up pubs - not just the booze. Personally I don't like drinking to excess anyway, but then found I am alergic to high fructose corn syrup, which is in practically everything! Soda is loaded with it, many cerials, ice creams, cakes and cookies have it. Also, with age, salt levels have to be watched....and salt (sodium) is in everything too! Then there's trans-fats and bad cholesterol. Coconut and its' oil, and other exotic oils will clog the arteries very quickly.
Monosodium Glutimate gives me a headache every time, and hormones are in some animal products and meats to make them hold water-weight so the 'farmer' can get more pounds from his livestock. Eggs taste like nothing, from battery hens. Free-rangers have far more flavour. Preservatives in food, end up in you!

How do you monitor every meal you eat at every restaurant? That's difficult too.

Want to live longer and healthier? You have to work harder than ever to watch what you consume, but paying more for naturally raised, no preservatives or hormone-added produce is worth it, in the long run.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Possible side effects associated with high vitamin C intake include:

kidney stones
reduced Vitamin B-12 and copper status
increased oxygen demand
becoming a pro-oxidant (a substance thought to promote cancer, heart disease, and stroke, the opposite of an antioxidant)

The Food and Nutrition Board, the committee that sets the Recommended Dietary Allowances (RDAs) and DRIs, examined the evidence for each of these claims, but couldn't find enough research to prove any of them.

One noteworthy precaution is for people with hemochromatosis, an iron overload disease. Since vitamin C increases iron absorption, supplemental C is not recommended for them.

I am cutting down on Satsumas


ELS - Maybe a change in lifestyle would helpm, as well. Perhaps get a dog and when you feel the urge to go to the pub, you will have to walk the dog. Or something along those lines.

 

[B.M.F]

ELS - Perhaps get a dog and when you feel the urge to go to the pub, you will have to walk the dog. Or something along those lines.

I take it you have met his missus then

Sorry Tim

 

[eastlondonseagull]

I take it you have met his missus then

Sorry Tim

Now that's low

 

[B.M.F]

Now that's low

Nothing better tan kicking a man when he is down as it means I have more of a chance of running away