[Albion] Ivan Toney: clever or cheating?
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Mustafa II
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I'm not an expert on the laws of the game, but I strongly suspect that, as a player, you are not allowed to take the referees foam and draw your own line.
Made the ref and VAR look like mugs!
Neville's Breakfast
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I don’t see anything wrong with it. Is it against the laws of the game ? Regardless, not his fault the defender jumps out of the way. Toney is a brilliant player and showed it in that game.
jakarta
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The answer is clearly both, a decent ref would have booked him.
I wrote on the PL thread that he moved the ball, and the keeper then checked that the wall was still where he wanted it to be. But I see from that clip that he moves the ball a second time! And this time the keeper didn't see him do it. Cheating. Clever cheating.
Even clearer on this https://dubz.live/c/ea3cb7
Even clearer on this https://dubz.live/c/ea3cb7
Mustafa II
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If players are allowed to do that, it'll become a tactic.
Quick! Nick a bit of the refs foam and draw a line over there!
Quick! Nick a bit of the refs foam and draw a line over there!
This is also my assessment.
Thunder Bolt
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Yes, the referee has marked where the ball is so the free kick is taken there, and the wall marked 10 yards away.
Barham's tash
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It’s clever gamesmanship. One of those if one of your team do it it’s cool. One of theirs and they’re an instant cheating shithouse.
Suspect a law change to enable VAR to look for such offences as a reason to not award future similar goals. Resulting in yellow card (unsportsmanlike conduct) and a retaken free kick.
Suspect a law change to enable VAR to look for such offences as a reason to not award future similar goals. Resulting in yellow card (unsportsmanlike conduct) and a retaken free kick.
brighton_dave
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- Apr 13, 2016
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Cheating for sure. The lad likes to break the rules. Sure someone had a few quid on that somewhere.
Yep, this.
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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Once upon a time I’d have said that was unsporting. But since the entire competition now is, I guess it doesn’t make much difference.
Neville's Breakfast
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Yep, that thread about the biggest ‘shithouse’ player in our team springs to mind. Didn’t everyone laugh about Joel Veltman….
The whole charade of a direct freekick normally lasts a good 1-2 minutes to complete. The initial blow of the whistle, the indication from the ref that it is under his control, the drawing of the foam, the positioning of the wall, the final blow to go .....f***ing yawn. If some chancer can just shift the ball when Dazza's not looking, then with all due respect, what's the point?
Shambles.
Shambles.
dejavuatbtn
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I’d have done him for handball. Disgraceful scenes.
Moving the ball a little bit away from the ref’s mark, and hoping to get away with it - pushing the boundaries / gamesmanship.
Moving the ref’s foam, to change the position that the ref has decreed - not for me. Cheating, pure and simple.
Moving the ref’s foam, to change the position that the ref has decreed - not for me. Cheating, pure and simple.