[Football] It’s Only The Fans That Are Loyal

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Coming from the right guy, eh?

Just one of the first to recognise your condition. Tho [MENTION=616]Guinness Boy[/MENTION] isn't far behind. Seriously, haven't you got anything better to do with your life than troll strangers in a strange land due to an oddball fixation on some foreign football manager that you were too scared to even meet when you had the chance? That's normal behaviour right?

 

[Swansman]

Just one of the first to recognise your condition. Tho [MENTION=616]Guinness Boy[/MENTION] isn't far behind. Seriously, haven't you got anything better to do with your life than troll strangers in a strange land?

Well, I've been discussing a lot of football for the last three years, in which time all you've done - in increasingly desperate ways - is to chase attention (also a condition).

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Well, I've been discussing a lot of football for the last three years, in which time all you've done is to chase attention (also a condition).

I just write stuff in the way I always did, couldn't give a shit if I got put on blanket ignore and post count was reset to zero. You on the other hand...

 

[Guinness Boy]

I'm not trolling - I'm urging you to demand from people (like Bruno) what you fail to live up to yourselves.

People demand that Bruno stay in Brighton forever regardless of what is best for his career and his life yet if they get a good job offer in Taiwan or something, they're off as soon as they can rather than take a job as a street sweeper in Brighton so they can stay close to the club forever.

The only reason why you consider it "trolling" is because you are who you are - someone making excuses on behalf of someone putting up hateful notes against other people because they're not living up to the standards you've not lived up to yourself.

If pointing out the absurd level of hypocrisy is a banable offense, then go for it.

Yes you are, You're palpably annoying people to score teeny tiny points on the internet when they're feeling upset or vulnerable. You're deliberately "misunderstanding" or mis quoting people. It's utterly tiresome and it's time for me to put the question to the mods group about whether you're any more considered a useful member of this community. It might be a short discussion. It might be a long one. But it's not one we should be having.

Meanwhile, I'm done interacting with you. The next thread I see this behaviour on can do without your presence. Then the next one and the next one....

 

[Swansman]

I just write stuff in the way I always did, couldn't give a shit if I got put on blanket ignore and post count was reset to zero. You on the other hand...

Quite possible you've always been the bloke screaming for attention, not gonna disagree with that. "Look at me - isn't it time for Tony to sell to a wealthy arab? Look at me - I'm no cancelling my season ticket. Look at me - Mings talking about mental health, pfft, it's for weaklings"... and the list goes on forever. While it is evident to anyone around us that both of us have issues, I'm probably young enough to get somewhere. You? Not much left but some replies on NSC.

 

[Seagull58]

I'm not trolling - I'm urging you to demand from people (like Bruno) what you fail to live up to yourselves.

People demand that Bruno stay in Brighton forever regardless of what is best for his career and his life yet if they get a good job offer in Taiwan or something, they're off as soon as they can rather than take a job as a street sweeper in Brighton so they can stay close to the club forever.

The only reason why you consider it "trolling" is because you are who you are - someone making excuses on behalf of someone putting up hateful notes against other people because they're not living up to the standards you've not lived up to yourself.

If pointing out the absurd level of hypocrisy is a banable offense, then go for it.

You are not comparing like for like. Bruno was a player who became part of the coaching team and the Albion in the Community structure. He declared Once a Seagull always a Seagull while in those roles working in and representing the club. Now he has walked away from the club to become a Chelsea man. I am a fan who started supporting the club at 7 years old and have continued for over 50 years whilst living in Sussex, Bedfordshire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire, South Africa and Portugal. I continue to support the club and have not walked away from it.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Quite possible you've always been the bloke screaming for attention, not gonna disagree with that. "Look at me - isn't it time for Tony to sell to a wealthy arab? Look at me - I'm no cancelling my season ticket. Look at me - Mings talking about mental health, pfft, it's for weaklings"... and the list goes on forever. While it is evident to anyone around us that both of us have issues, I'm probably young enough to get somewhere. You? Not much left but some replies on NSC.

Good to see I live inside your head. Or as multiple entries in your fully-indexed NSC Quote Database. Me, I don't care, I just go to football to support my local team, and discuss matters pertaining to my local team on here. You on the other hand...

 

[Swansman]

Yes you are, You're palpably annoying people to score teeny tiny points on the internet when they're feeling upset or vulnerable. You're deliberately "misunderstanding" or mis quoting people. It's utterly tiresome and it's time for me to put the question to the mods group about whether you're any more considered a useful member of this community. It might be a short discussion. It might be a long one. But it's not one we should be having.

Meanwhile, I'm done interacting with you. The next thread I see this behaviour on can do without your presence. Then the next one and the next one....

Do it. You've probably done it before. Any outcome: it is what it is.

Fair I suppose. Judging from the PMs I've got through our years here together, there's quite a few people (some who have left barely to be seen again) wondering if it is worth being part of this community with you being here constantly throwing shit at people, something you can do with your safety net as a mod.
Their questions are as valid as yours, and I'm going to take some time to reflect on that as well.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

You are not comparing like for like. Bruno was a player who became part of the coaching team and the Albion in the Community structure. He declared Once a Seagull always a Seagull while in those roles working in and representing the club. Now he has walked away from the club to become a Chelsea man. I am a fan who started supporting the club at 7 years old and have continued for over 50 years whilst living in Sussex, Bedfordshire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire, South Africa and Portugal. I continue to support the club and have not walked away from it.

Whilst the two roles (fan / coach) are obviously not directly comparable, there is absolutely merit in the argument Swansman is making. Your life / family / work / whatever has taken you away from Brighton. As you say it doesn't stop you being a Brighton fan in the slightest (though clearly it does change the WAYS in which you can support the club - presumably rarely financially, or in terms of support in a ground).

Bruno's career is taking him elsewhere at this point in time - to where he feels he is best placed to develop his own coaching abilities, and prepare him for future management roles. None of that changes what he has done on and off the field for the club over the last decade. None of it changes what he feels for the club and its fans (although the actions and words of some this week, might well do). None of it means he is the devil. Or a Judas. Or deserving of abuse or petty vandalism. People need to grow up a bit.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Do it. You've probably done it before. Any outcome: it is what it is.

Fair I suppose. Judging from the PMs I've got through our years here together, there's quite a few people (some who have left barely to be seen again) wondering if it is worth being part of this community with you being here constantly throwing shit at people, something you can do with your safety net as a mod.
Their questions are as valid as yours, and I'm going to take some time to reflect on that as well.

I'm possibly in a minority on here, who've actually had a bit of banter with you.
But I do think inviting or goading a permanent ban won't get you anywhere TBH
You were accepted on here when GP turned up.
You should know our history by now, if not, I'd be very surprised.
It's been a hard time for some during the recent events, so just bare that in mind and chill.

 

[Icy Gull]

I'm possibly in a minority on here, who've actually had a bit of banter with you.
But I do think inviting or goading a permanent ban won't get you anywhere TBH
You were accepted on here when GP turned up.
You should know our history by now, if not, I'd be very surprised.
It's been a hard time for some during the recent events, so just bare that in mind and chill.

Until yesterday I was defending him, he’s been an interesting and knowledgable poster. However his complete inability to see a single negative in anything Potter and his coaching team do and his lack of empathy for Albion fans hurting, is tiring and he has turned very unpleasant in many of his responses in the last couple of days.

He’s not a Brighton fan and should try showing some respect as this is an Albion board.

The mods have been pretty patient imo, although one seems to be supportive of his aggressive posts in the last few days.

I think he might flounce or be banned shortly…or not

Be interesting once the football starts again, I imagine his interest in this forum will disappear quickly once GP gets motoring at Chelsea.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Until yesterday I was defending him, he’s been an interesting and knowledgable poster. However his complete inability to see a single negative in anything Potter and his coaching team do and his lack of empathy for Albion fans hurting, is tiring and he has turned very unpleasant in many of his responses in the last couple of days.

He’s not a Brighton fan and should try showing some respect as this is an Albion board.

The mods have been pretty patient imo, although one seems to be supportive of his aggressive posts in the last few days.

I think he might flounce or be banned shortly…or not

Be interesting once the football starts again, I imagine his interest in this forum will disappear quickly once GP gets motoring at Chelsea.

I honestly don't know what the fuss is with Swans I really don't. I get far more upset with long standing Brighton through and through fans rubbishing Solly March than I have with anything this [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] has ever said. Some of the ridiculous threads the likes of junior start after every defeat, or frankly some of the other unpalatable stuff, honestly, massive overreactions just because some person is around for a really odd reason, or gives opinions that seem 'insensitive' what a load of crap. Most of the annoyance is basically people know but don't want to admit that a lot of what he says is true, but they don't want to hear it as they want to stay angry.

 

[Icy Gull]

I honestly don't know what the fuss is with Swans I really don't. I get far more upset with long standing Brighton through and through fans rubbishing Solly March than I have with anything this [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] has ever said. Some of the ridiculous threads the likes of junior start after every defeat, or frankly some of the other unpalatable stuff, honestly, massive overreactions just because some person is around for a really odd reason, or gives opinions that seem 'insensitive' what a load of crap. Most of the annoyance is basically people know but don't want to admit that a lot of what he says is true, but they don't want to hear it as they want to stay angry.

Fair enough, I am not angry any more, I have just found him unpleasant recently

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Managers come and go, as do players but I suppose the more romantic amongst us really believed Bruno was one of us.
That’s a hard lesson and one I never seem to learn.

So true….

 

[AmexRuislip]

Until yesterday I was defending him, he’s been an interesting and knowledgable poster. However his complete inability to see a single negative in anything Potter and his coaching team do and his lack of empathy for Albion fans hurting, is tiring and he has turned very unpleasant in many of his responses in the last couple of days.

He’s not a Brighton fan and should try showing some respect as this is an Albion board.

The mods have been pretty patient imo, although one seems to be supportive of his aggressive posts in the last few days.

I think he might flounce or be banned shortly…or not

Be interesting once the football starts again, I imagine his interest in this forum will disappear quickly once GP gets motoring at Chelsea.

I hope she stays on, there's far more annoying people on here, especially from SW Landan

 

[BrightonCottager]

Dunk went “on strike” once when he couldn’t force through a transfer to Fulham.

It looked like he was still on strike the last time you played us !

 

[Questions]

"It’s Only The Fans That Are Loyal" - that is such a bloody obvious statement and doesn't even need saying. Let's start a thread "Everybody needs a shit every now and then".

As I had to tell the lady where I’m fitting her kitchen today.

 

[BrightonCottager]

It seems obvious to me that it's(usually) only the fans who are loyal to a club. The days of 'one club' players are largely over. We had a few in the old days ( Haynes, Cohen - who is ill ATM) and as much as I'd love Mitro and a few of our current side to hang around, I doubt they would given the kind of offer that might come their way if Fulham stay up. Managers are obviously not loyal these days and I am sorry Potter has gone, especially to Chelscum. Owners could be considered to be loyal given the amount it costs them. Some of them (like Bloom and - I think - our owner Shahid Khan) realise they are the temporary custodians of the club.

 

[Dave the OAP]

How people think giving someone a long contract is in some way a thanks of loyalty….it’s so it’s easier to work out a transfer fee and compensation!

 

[BN9 BHA]

As I had to tell the lady where I’m fitting her kitchen today.

Fitting a kitchen isn’t too bad, it becomes an issue when changing a customer’s toilet over and someone needs one.