It's G-Day!

[pornomagboy]

@johnnycburger: Meeting of GP and #bhafc due in 15 mins. Spread bet on how long it will take would be interesting !

 

[Albumen]

I'm not sure there's many who actually think he'll still be manager come Leeds. I have no negative feelings towards him though. Time to move on.

 

[Country Seagull]

Meeting at 10:00 according to Johny Cantor on twitter, doubt we'll hear anything for a while afterwards though.

 

[Matrix10]

Anyone else think "Little Chef"?

No, It will be here

 

[Monkey Man]

Lets be honest neither side looks great in this whatever the outcome and there are tough times ahead for both. Imagine how it will play out if we start badly which we could after this. Pro gus will be saying it would not have happened under him and the others will be blaiming him for causing this problem in the first place and delaying all close season. I do feel for the new manager he will be arriving at a difficult time with opinions divided and it will be him who gets my support whatever the fallout from today.

If Gus goes, as seems inevitable, we'll never really know for sure how he would have got on this season. My feeling is that he's not a manager who will thrive under FFP, wherever he goes - at least at this level and slightly above.

 

[OzMike]

I'm just leaving work to go home now, so will pick it up from there in about an hour or so, toodle ooh chaps.

 

[Surf's Up]

I don't think the fans have turned against gus in any great number. I think the majority who haven't turned yet are waiting to see what happens before jumping on him, but there is a vocal minority who are making the most noise at the moment, with many of them (thou not all) having been itching to have a reason to criticise him for a while.

Obviously I can only speak for myself but I was a massive fan of GP, what he had done for the club, the football we were playing (well, most of it - not the lack of a Plan B but I always understood and respected the defensive focus) eye etc. My admiration started to wane after the Reading affair, I was irritated by his comments about Leeds but I was shocked and angered by our performance against Palace and his comments after the game were the final straw. I now see him and his advisors playing brinkmanship with the club (although I can understand why his advisors are taking him down this line) in a way which seriously threatens our preparations for next season and I just want him out, away, nowhere near the place and as quickly as legally possible. My fear is that this will not be today and he will drag this on for a few more weeks in which case we could be seriously f**ked - if this happens I will simply just hate him.

 

[imissworthing2]

If Gus goes, as seems inevitable, we'll never really know for sure how he would have got on this season. My feeling is that he's not a manager who will thrive under FFP, wherever he goes - at least at this level and slightly above.

I'm not completely disagreeing with you re FFP but Gus revolutionised the way we play football, day to day on the training pitch. We didnt go up from L1 by buying the championship.


He certainly does like going on about budget restrictions tho!

 

[Deadly Danson]

Obviously I can only speak for myself but I was a massive fan of GP, what he had done for the club, the football we were playing (well, most of it - not the lack of a Plan B but I always understood and respected the defensive focus) eye etc. My admiration started to wane after the Reading affair, I was irritated by his comments about Leeds but I was shocked and angered by our performance against Palace and his comments after the game were the final straw. I now see him and his advisors playing brinkmanship with the club (although I can understand why his advisors are taking him down this line) in a way which seriously threatens our preparations for next season and I just want him out, away, nowhere near the place and as quickly as legally possible. My fear is that this will not be today and he will drag this on for a few more weeks in which case we could be seriously f**ked - if this happens I will simply just hate him.

Pretty much agree with every word.

 

[Albumen]

Can anyone conjecture who will actually be at this meeting?

 

[Gazwag]

Can anyone conjecture who will actually be at this meeting?

A new players worth of solicitors I'd wager to start with

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

Didn't they say week last GP had turned down an offer ? They know nothing.

Indeed, and that's very interesting. Today's story (not bylined in the paper) appears to contradict what the real Andy Naylor wrote last week. So what happened to make them change a story that, I'm told, came from a very, very good source? Or who leaned on them?

 

[trueblue]

I was Gus all the way but then I heard his post match comments after the palace match. To be fair, it was his reaction that turned the fans in my opinion.

Quite true. I was furious about his post match comments despite being a massive fan of his management on the whole. Around the time of the Reading approach his attitude started to get on my wick.

 

[Fef]

Apparently the meeting will take place away from The Amex. Maybe our promised land has become an away game for Gus?

Right then. I'm off to Donatello's with a rather large ear trumpet.

 

[Surf's Up]

Can anyone conjecture who will actually be at this meeting?

The key to the likely duration of this hearing process is whether whoever is chairing it has enough legal knowledge and confidence to cut through all the legalistic irrelevances raised by his lawyers and concentrate on the key issues. A failure to do this will, in my experience, allow things to careen out of control and will result in an unbalanced and extremely lengthy process. As this is new territory for the club and, to date they seem to have been very concerned to follow due process, I can see this happening. I hope not.

 

[ROSM]

Same here. I was already traumatised by the outcome of that match (mainly the 2nd half) but that interview was the sh*t icing on a very cr@ppy cake.

Totally agree papa

Given as has been said by @beachhut and many others, it was known for a few months before he would be in his way irrespective of play offs, you can understand why some people at the club allegedly called the mood it caused 'facilitating'.

 

[Acker79]

Obviously I can only speak for myself but I was a massive fan of GP, what he had done for the club, the football we were playing (well, most of it - not the lack of a Plan B but I always understood and respected the defensive focus) eye etc. My admiration started to wane after the Reading affair, I was irritated by his comments about Leeds but I was shocked and angered by our performance against Palace and his comments after the game were the final straw. I now see him and his advisors playing brinkmanship with the club (although I can understand why his advisors are taking him down this line) in a way which seriously threatens our preparations for next season and I just want him out, away, nowhere near the place and as quickly as legally possible. My fear is that this will not be today and he will drag this on for a few more weeks in which case we could be seriously f**ked - if this happens I will simply just hate him.

The club didn't finish their investigation into his alleged breach of contract until last Thursday. That is the reason it has taken so long. You can't seriously blame gus for wanting time to go through a 500 page document (yes, some of it might be copies of documents he has, but how many people know their contracts off by heart and would know the exact wording of each clause that they are accused of breaching, and whether there are other clauses that provide exception to other clauses? It would all need to be gone through) and to have, as is his right, a legal representative who quite fairly isn't available at the drop of a hat and had advised the club of his available date that was in keeping with the club's policy.

To put the blame for the time taken with this on gus, when 80% of the delay is the club's process, and the other 20% is about fair process for the accused as set out in the club's policy is a little unfair.

 

[TheDuke]

Gus clearly suffers from delusions of grandeur. Self confidence is one thing but this guy is on a different planet. The amount of clubs he has been linked to is eye-boggling...Chelsea, Everton, Wigan, Fulham, Reading, Wolves, Leeds...the list goes on. He has successfully courted the media to the extent that he is their new darling. Outside of BHA he is always being talked about. Neutrals say.." You've got a really good manager there...wish we had him "
So..right in the media spotlight and rated highly. There must be a queue of club chairmen out there salivating at the prospect of hiring this new, talented kid on the block. TB must be fighting them off. They all want to get their hands on this hot property.
Well....apparently not. Where is the rush to secure his services? We all thought we would be trampled in the stampede.
Has the penny dropped out there? Have enough seeds of doubt been sown to frighten people away? Is he not all he is cracked up to be? Perhaps the Emperor has no clothes after all. Has the incessant talking finally worn everyone down ( he wasn't nicknamed ' radio ' for nothing in his playing days ) Is he more empty vessel than luxury liner? Have eyes been opened by the comments of Vicente? Do we respect his judgement ( 38 full caps for Spain, 50+ representative honours, la Liga titles, legendary status at Valencia....decent club, after all )...clearly and simply doesn't rate the man. Has he got an axe to grind or should we take more notice of this man than anybody?
Time for Gus to take his next chance and prove he has what it takes.
" Taxi "
" Taxi "

Blimey Mo...you've put all my feelings into joined up writing. Spot-on and exactly right

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Totally agree papa

Given as has been said by @beachhut and many others, it was known for a few months before he would be in his way irrespective of play offs, you can understand why some people at the club allegedly called the mood it caused 'facilitating'.

And if so - this is what will do for Poyet's reputation. Not just from those who had an axe to grind anyway - but from supporters who loved Gus and the football we played. If it turns out he did not do the best for the club in its most important game for the last twenty years - and his own interests were more important .............. well ...........

 

[ROSM]

Someone asked about attendees, well I would expect Rose Read (club's head of hr) possibly Paul Barber, and likely another director or two (depending on if Barber is involved) would form the panel. Likely the club solicitors will be there.

The attendance of barber will be driven as to how involved he is the the causes of breaches that were investigated. As I said previously, he can't be a complainant witness and on the panel (or would be like blackadder and general melchett in the Flanders pigeon murderer scene).

Poyet likely reprsented by Richard Bevan(lma) and a solicitor.