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[Albion] It’s amazing how well results have gone our way







blue-shifted

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Feb 20, 2004
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a galaxy far far away
The best scenario here is for West Ham to keep their recent good form and smash our relegation rivals maybe slip up v Norwich. If we won on Saturday that leaves Villa and Watford with very little margin of error to win every game remaining, this is without factoring the halpless form of Bournemouth. Defeat for us on Saturday and unlikely wins for all the others and we are still in it. The game v Norwich is pivotal, win we will be almost safe but lose and results go against us we will start getting night sweats.

I think West Ham will help us out with their remaining fixtures. They have the worst manager out of the bottom clubs, but easily the best players. Also they are the Premier League team most helped out by not having that crowd to play in front of.

Our main interest for the last 3 or 4 games will be whether we can hold them off from taking our 15th spot
 


nickbrighton

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Feb 19, 2016
2,130
There seems to be a fair bit of the "only reason we may stay up is because the other teams are even worse" attitude. At the risk of stating the "bleedin obvious" in reality that is ALWAYS the case, and is true for all clubs. Its the premise of the entire league pyramid structure from Liverpool all the way down to the bottom club in the 9th tier or wherever the league actually goes down to. We can only play the teams in our league, and the simple fact is some are better than others. The games played over the course of the season show who that is and teams go up and down accordingly. Barring some kind of Man City style takeover by a zillionaire we are never going to be in a position of not needing clubs to be worse than us, that doesn't mean we are crap . We are deservedly in arguably the "top league" in world football, we have not been in the bottom three since we were promoted after more than a few games at the start of a season, and we are one of the better run clubs in world football!. Lets forget about this "we are crap but luckily others are more crap" attitude, and get more of the "we are in the top 15 of ALL the thousands of clubs in England and we deserve to be there"
 


Kalimantan Gull

Well-known member
Aug 13, 2003
13,438
Central Borneo / the Lizard
When was the last true 'must win' game?

I guess the FA Cup semi-final, in the league probably the 2016 play off match against Massive?

arguably Villa away, in order to win the title.

Before that, in the league proper, Boro away.

Massive wasn't just a 'Must win', but a 'Must win by several goals'. (ah, but that first 30 minutes, what fun that was)
 


dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
16,265
London
Norwich have beaten man city and Leicester at home. They play good football and have a few good players.. I'm a tad nervous. They are in a slightly false position because half their players have been injured for most of these season.

Draw wouldn't be the end of the world.

PS this game is on BT just imagine how monumentally depressing this will be if we lose (Jake fckin Humphrey)
 




nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
Norwich have beaten man city and Leicester at home. They play good football and have a few good players.. I'm a tad nervous. They are in a slightly false position because half their players have been injured for most of these season.

Draw wouldn't be the end of the world.

PS this game is on BT just imagine how monumentally depressing this will be if we lose (Jake fckin Humphrey)

A draw definitely isn't the end of the world. We still have a +14 relative GD, so it would likely mean Bournemouth and Villa had to get 8 points from their last 6 fixtures even if we lost the rest of ours.

The main focus amongst the playing staff should be to fend off challenges from West Ham and Watford for 15th place. I think another 6 points should do that comfortably.
 
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pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,027
West, West, West Sussex
For those that can't be bothered, here's a quick table of remaining fixtures for the current bottom 6 all in one place.

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amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
6,832
Very impressed with how West Ham approached game v Chelsea. Even if they had lost unlike us against Utd supporters would have said they gave it a go
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Very impressed with how West Ham approached game v Chelsea. Even if they had lost unlike us against Utd supporters would have said they gave it a go

United, on the night, were on a different level to Chelsea last night but yes WHU did play well and deserved the result

Too many fans beating themselves up about our game against United ( not aimed at you btw)

Lose or maybe even draw with Norwich and this place is going to go into meltdown (I may even contribute :lolol:)
 


Seasider78

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Nov 14, 2004
6,011
For those that can't be bothered, here's a quick table of remaining fixtures for the current bottom 6 all in one place.

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If Villa or Bournemouth had a run of winnable games whilst we were playing Liverpool and City you could see a situation where they would reduce the gap and put pressure on us going into the final 3 games. This fixture list looks very kind to us and more likely we will have the same or a greater gap between those two teams going into the last 3.

I think the current bottom 3 are gone barring some miracle turnaround
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
49,183
Gloucester
For those that can't be bothered, here's a quick table of remaining fixtures for the current bottom 6 all in one place.

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Quite encouraging. Yes, we've still got to play Man. City - but so have three of the teams below us. We've just played a Man. Utd. team running into form - three of the teams below us have yet to face them too.
Nothing is certain, of course, but every time some badly informed pundit spouts their "but Brighton have got a tough run in" line I will remember, We ain't the only ones!
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,015
For those that can't be bothered, here's a quick table of remaining fixtures for the current bottom 6.

wouldnt fancy that on even or a point above. as it if with points on board and GD relatively confident.

also wonder the odds we lose to Norwich (argh, we're going down) then beat Liverpool (yeah, we're champion beaters), its the Brighton way to do things.
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
Quite encouraging. Yes, we've still got to play Man. City - but so have three of the teams below us. We've just played a Man. Utd. team running into form - three of the teams below us have yet to face them too.
Nothing is certain, of course, but every time some badly informed pundit spouts their "but Brighton have got a tough run in" line I will remember, We ain't the only ones!

We haven't really got a disproportionately tough run in anyway. Law of averages says that you're going to run into one of the top 6 every 3rd game, which is how it's worked out for our final 6, with the other 4 opponents spread between 9th and bottom.
 




Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,468
Mid Sussex
Norwich have beaten man city and Leicester at home. They play good football and have a few good players.. I'm a tad nervous. They are in a slightly false position because half their players have been injured for most of these season.

Draw wouldn't be the end of the world.

PS this game is on BT just imagine how monumentally depressing this will be if we lose (Jake fckin Humphrey)

Norwich have scored 25 goals all season. Since the restart they’ve scored one and conceded ten. The city win was way back in September.

They may pull one out of the bag but only if we are too cautious and let them get a grip on the game. That was our problem under CH. the likes of Cardiff, PLB and scumhampton new that they could take risks because of our conservative approach. GP isn’t like that and so will go after them. If we fall behind we are more than capable of scoring, whereas if you are Norwich and have only scored one in the last four games it doesn’t bode well.


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Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
29,319
I heard a stat yesterday. Norwich haven't picked up a single point all season from a loosing position. If they have conceded first then they have lost!


Similarly Bournemouth have gone 1-0 down on 17 occasions this season and lost 15 of those matches drawing the other 2

So worth lumping on us to score first Norwich to win and same with Man U Bmuff... :lol:
 


Moshe Gariani

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Mar 10, 2005
12,199
There seems to be a fair bit of the "only reason we may stay up is because the other teams are even worse" attitude. At the risk of stating the "bleedin obvious" in reality that is ALWAYS the case, and is true for all clubs. Its the premise of the entire league pyramid structure from Liverpool all the way down to the bottom club in the 9th tier or wherever the league actually goes down to. We can only play the teams in our league, and the simple fact is some are better than others. The games played over the course of the season show who that is and teams go up and down accordingly. Barring some kind of Man City style takeover by a zillionaire we are never going to be in a position of not needing clubs to be worse than us, that doesn't mean we are crap . We are deservedly in arguably the "top league" in world football, we have not been in the bottom three since we were promoted after more than a few games at the start of a season, and we are one of the better run clubs in world football!. Lets forget about this "we are crap but luckily others are more crap" attitude, and get more of the "we are in the top 15 of ALL the thousands of clubs in England and we deserve to be there"
Well said. People, especially on NSC but also at matches, seem to have no sense at all of the big picture and a feeling of gratitude that we, Brighton & Hove Albion FC, are one of the 50 most successful/biggest/best football clubs IN THE WORLD at the moment.

In England we are obviously also comfortably in a very high echelon. But there are several much bigger/better clubs and we don't get it all our own way.

As Tony Bloom wants all Albion fans to do - "Just enjoy it!" (FFS).
 


vagabond

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May 17, 2019
9,804
Brighton
Norwich have beaten man city and Leicester at home. They play good football and have a few good players.. I'm a tad nervous. They are in a slightly false position because half their players have been injured for most of these season.

Draw wouldn't be the end of the world.

PS this game is on BT just imagine how monumentally depressing this will be if we lose (Jake fckin Humphrey)

But thinking positively, imagine how sweet it would be to beat them with free flowing, expansive exciting football and sending them down.

Right in front of Jake Humphreys, destroying them on BT, conforming their relegation and re-tweeting him again [emoji1787]
 




Sheebo

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2003
29,319
Really? I'd say he got alot wrong between the Bournemouth home game and lock down which put us in the trouble we were. Our defending was hopeless for a long period.

After Bournemouth we only conceded more than 1 goal in one game and that was the 3-3 at West Ham in that period. P8 W0 D6 L2 F7 A9.

We picked up draws away to Sheff Utd, Wolves, and home to Chelsea with some resolute defending. I would have said our scoring and finishing is what did us in that period. Against Palace we had 23 shots, 8 on target and couldn't score. The Villa game should also have been put to bed with better forward play.

Can see both points here although Dan is being a little too negative for my liking. We were frustrating in 2020 but not so in the first 2 games of the restart. We regathered and there was more confidence in the squad. It’s so tough in this league and Potter has done well overall I feel. No experience in the league, smaller team, less budget than most and on the whole we’ve played a decent brand of football, looked so much better than last year, been in the vast majority of games and hopefully will get more points than last season. Stay up, have some good recruitment and I think we won’t be in the battle at this stage next season.
 


Sheebo

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2003
29,319
There seems to be a fair bit of the "only reason we may stay up is because the other teams are even worse" attitude. At the risk of stating the "bleedin obvious" in reality that is ALWAYS the case, and is true for all clubs. Its the premise of the entire league pyramid structure from Liverpool all the way down to the bottom club in the 9th tier or wherever the league actually goes down to. We can only play the teams in our league, and the simple fact is some are better than others. The games played over the course of the season show who that is and teams go up and down accordingly. Barring some kind of Man City style takeover by a zillionaire we are never going to be in a position of not needing clubs to be worse than us, that doesn't mean we are crap . We are deservedly in arguably the "top league" in world football, we have not been in the bottom three since we were promoted after more than a few games at the start of a season, and we are one of the better run clubs in world football!. Lets forget about this "we are crap but luckily others are more crap" attitude, and get more of the "we are in the top 15 of ALL the thousands of clubs in England and we deserve to be there"

Spot on. I certainly don’t feel like that this season. Goal difference tells a lot too. There’s no way we have been one of the 3 worse teams this season. At the start of the season our football at times was top 10 stuff. The only time that cliche has come close was last season due to Cardiff being shit etc...
 


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