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Couldn't Be Hyypia

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Nov 12, 2006
16,730
Near Dorchester, Dorset
Surely these bankers just need to get on their bikes and look for work?

It's not about their jobs it's about ours.

If liquidity dries up - ie no one can get hold of any money - then business can't borrow to expand, or borrow to fund growth, or simply deal with cashflow issues. This means companies could become uncompetitive and go bust - lots of companies, all over the world.

This then creates a cycle - people losing jobs can't spend, more businesses who were teetering on the edge fold, more redundancies etc etc

The big cash injection wasn't to bail out the banks, it was to underwrite the mortgages - in other words safeguard US home owners (and by default a lot of UK home owners). Without that "insurance" for the existing debt, the banks that don't go bust will just shut up shop. Look at mortgages - Where there were 1000 mortgages last year, this year there are 15. I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing but it's a clear sign that banks are just going to shut up shop.

It's called liquidity because it keeps things moving - circulating. Without liquidity acting as "oil" in the machinery of business, the whole thing grinds quickly and noisily to a halt.

One last point - businesses do not borrow recklessly, they borrow to survive. 70% of businesses that go bust do so because of problems with cashflow. They grow but they can't fund the growth because they can't get the money in quickly enough. Imagine now if those businesses can't go to the bank and say "here's my order book - can I get an overdraft, loan, factor the debt". It will kill REAL businesses like mine, like yours, like the ones you work for. I don't give a toss about greedy bankers - I care about my job, my family and my staff's jobs.
 
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Paddy B

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
2,084
Horsham
Surely these bankers just need to get on their bikes and look for work?

You are missing the point. Without this cash injection it is likely that the US economy will sink further through the floor than it already is. The knock on effects in this country are huge, basically any business that relys on borrowing money, (think about it, virtually everything) will be in worse diffciluties than they already are (ask anyone who works in the concstruction, housing, building supplies industry)

The aftermath will be repossessions, redunancies, spiralling debt etc all against the backdrop of rising food & fuel costs.

So yes for one U.Speilberg is right.

And dont even joke about the funding for Falmer.........
 










Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,425
Location Location
Buy lots and lots of CANNED goods, then tear all the labels off.

Hey presto - a dinnertime surprise LOTTERY every night.
 




Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,097
Lancing
I'm well up for a bit of panic buying.

But what EXACTLY should I be throwing my money at?

Wood. Its the next Oil I tell you. Buy as much Wood as you can possibly buy and store it for future use. That is my Plan B. Its a winner :thumbsup:
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,358
I'm well up for a bit of panic buying.

But what EXACTLY should I be throwing my money at?

Cairn Energy shares. Tried and trusted SCOTTISH oil company. Down from thirty quid to twenty quid in, oh, about a month. Bargain! Millions of barrels of oil in India due to come onstream next year. I mean, they're not suddenly going to UNDISCOVER that oil now, are they? :thumbsup:
 


Chicken Runner61

We stand where we want!
May 20, 2007
4,609
Thought for you - If individuals savings up to £35k are "protected" does that include business accounts too?

I'm not sure it does and if so what happens to the business if say it loses all its working capital and everyones salaries for that month?

And if B & hove councils money is held at Barclays and that goes tits up what happen to all the council services, wages etc etc
 


Stumpy Tim

Well-known member
the buy-to-let muppets suddenly looking none too clever either. Ha Ha.

What a tool you are. The "buy-to-let muppets" could well do okay out of this actually. Less people can buy now so have to rent. While that rent covers the mortgage the "muppets" are having mortgages paid by the renters. The value of the house may go down, but seeing as someone else is paying the mortgage does it matter that much?

To say we're f***ed is a bit OTT in my opinion. In no way is this good news, and it may extend a recession for a year or two - but that doesn't mean we're f***ed. Reading this thread you would think we're all going to starve to death
 
















Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,097
Lancing
What a tool you are. The "buy-to-let muppets" could well do okay out of this actually. Less people can buy now so have to rent. While that rent covers the mortgage the "muppets" are having mortgages paid by the renters. The value of the house may go down, but seeing as someone else is paying the mortgage does it matter that much?

To say we're f***ed is a bit OTT in my opinion. In no way is this good news, and it may extend a recession for a year or two - but that doesn't mean we're f***ed. Reading this thread you would think we're all going to starve to death


Depends what industry you are in.
 








Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,097
Lancing
Tim my income has gone down 75% this year so please don't tell me I am over reacting especially sitting in a good economy 12000 miles away.
 


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