It takes a big man to admit he's wrong

[Napper]

If he continues as he is then he is on course to get 17 this season. Pretty good for a 20 year old I would say.

He has looked pretty average so far but yesterday I thought was his best game so far.

He will never be a world beater but he's alright

I'm more concerned with what I've seen of Sandaza so far. Early days though so no real opinion just yet

 

[MikeySmall]

I'd have put away at least 1 of those chances he had yesterday.

 

[Giraffe]

I don't think Barnes is a goal scoring genius but he is good enough for us right now and certainly doesn't deserve to be slated by some of the morons on here. His performance yesterday reminded me of Terry Connor. He used to regularly get three or more chances in a game and only tuck away one. At this level it is good enough so leave him alone.

 

[¤DãŃn¥ §êãGüLL¤]

For once just SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!

What the f*** is wrong with you. Can't you ever let it go?? He didn't make all the chances himself and you know that's not the point he's making you snide twat. FFS

 

[upthealbion1970]

Withdean Wanderer is spot on, if we had lost two points many more posts would have been critical of his scoring attempts, to be a successful striker you have to find the net with no more than a couple of good chances.If we had signed another goalscorer we could get by with Barnes but as the main hope we must aim higher.
I would keep him in the squad as a possibility for the future but if we are going for promotion in time for Falmer we must get a matchwinner on loan then sign him in January.

FACT we won yesterday, FACT we are top of the league, FACT barnes scored the most difficult of his "sitters", FACT barnes is a whole 20 ffs, FACT barnes is rated by gus (remember him?)


What I'm TRYING to explain to you is get a f***ing grip on reality will you, obviously you're not a glass half full type but why spread your misery - we are not going to be fighting relegation this season AND we are moving to falmer in less than a year, we don't have anything to moan about anymore!

 

[¤DãŃn¥ §êãGüLL¤]

What I'm TRYING to explain to you is get a f***ing grip on reality will you, obviously you're not a glass half full type but why spread your misery - we are not going to be fighting relegation this season AND we are moving to falmer in less than a year, we don't have anything to moan about anymore!

There are still no forks at Withdean?

 

[Simster]

Why is NSC obsessed with the opinions of two specific supporters? I don't see that WW has any reason to admit he's wrong if he remains unconvinced after 5 or 6 games this season.

He pays his money, he forms an opinion. A 70 reply thread on the subject is f***ing ridiculous.

 

[Acker79]

This reminds me of some stats I saw before the world cup, comparing messsi, Rooney and ronaldo. I mentioned them on here back then:

Interestingly they compared Rooney, Messi and Ronaldo's stats on sky sports.

I might be a little off, but from what I remember Ronaldo was top in goals/ game with 18 in 22
messi had 31 in 43
Rooney had 33 in 46

What was interesting was the other stats:

50% of Ronaldo's shots were on target
41% of Messi's were
only 31% of Rooney's shots were on target.

Worse, only 20% of Rooney's shots result in goals. (I can't remember the others' but it was higher).

Rooney get's less than a third of his shots on target.

Not sure what this adds to the argument for Zamora, just seemed like an appropriate place to mention this.

Wayne rooney scores one goal for every five shots (well, those were his stats back before the world cup, with only one goal (a penalty) since then, I imagine they are worse now). Does Barnes still seem so bad to those of you saying he should have done better?

 

[bristolseagull]

Why is NSC obsessed with the opinions of two specific supporters? I don't see that WW has any reason to admit he's wrong if he remains unconvinced after 5 or 6 games this season.

He pays his money, he forms an opinion. A 70 reply thread on the subject is f***ing ridiculous.

NSC is ridiculous, what's even MORE ridiculus is people that get stressed and upset by others opinions.....

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Barnes did miss four sitters yesterday, had he not scored his goal would you really be making this thread?

As long as he learns to become more clinical, we should have a quality striker on our books.

Their keeper made a great save for 1, the second looked like it too was a good save but hard to tell what angle there was for Barnes to beat him, the 3rd hit the inside of the post and came back out.

At least his shots are on target rather than missing it, thats what you want from a striker. On another day all of those chances could have gone in had we not come up against a keeper having a great game and luck going against him by it coming back out rather than hitting the inside of the post and going in.

He looks like a quality player to me, and i think had he not scored yesterday his performance was worthy of praise for his workrate etc.

He hasn't been here that long and to have people being critical about him is unnecessary and really counter productive imo.

That said, ridiculing those fans who were critical now because we are top of the league is a bit petty

 

[Acker79]

NSC is ridiculous, what's even MORE ridiculus is people that get stressed and upset by others opinions.....

Happens in pubs up and down the country after games, has done since forever. Especially when the opinions are ridiculous and/or extreme and/or designed to get a rise out of people.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I've just read on Wikipedia that he is an Austrian international.

 

[Icy Gull]

Barnes had about seven good chances yeaterday and scored one. That is the fact of the matter, which ever way you look at it. He has three goals so far but should at least have double that amount and I cant see how anyone can argue this fact. On the plus side, yes he gets himself in good positons but the fact of the matter is his end product is not as good as it should be. Sometimes you only get a few chances in a game and taking them can be the difference between success and faliure.

How can I put this politely? The guy is f***ing 20 years old and has been here two months. The fact of the matter, as you put it, is that he is not the finished article, the Albion can't afford top Premiership finished article players. Your expectations are absolutely ridiculous for a third division striker at a club who spent much of last season flirting with the relegation zone. All players, even world class ones miss goals, get over it and just enjoy the fact that we are making 7 chances for one player in a game.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

He is a young player just one year out of his teens, whose career thus far has largely been spent playing for Plymouth Argyle's reserves, Torquay and Eastbourne Borough.

Frankly if anyone on here offered me a striker who would miss four chances (they weren't even all "misses" anyway: two were bloody well saved) but be guaranteed to score one every other game, then I would bite your hands off: that'd be 23 goals for the season and thanks very much. I'm not saying Barnes will score that many, but he's already our top scorer (and each of his goals have been pretty tidy finishes), he works his nuts off, and despite what the less educated on here seem to think, he knows where the goal is.

Better to create a few and score a couple than not to create anything at all. Well I think so anyway, but perhaps the less intelligent on here will think we should be signing David Villa to fill the role.

 

[Don Quixote]

I'd have put away at least 1 of those chances he had yesterday.

Fair play to him though - he doesn't have many stand out attributes at all, which makes him look dreadful at times. However, he's obviously pretty good positionally to keep getting these chances, so if he can sort his finishing out he could be a useful "fox in the box" or whatever that ridiculous cliche is.

You are a better finisher than a professional footballer? Don't talk rubbish.

 

[alan partridge]

If it wasn't for Sandaza, I'd have come home yesterday pretty pissed off with Barnes for wasting glorious chances that someone with the basic ability to shoot could have scored.

Oh right, and so Barnes has made it to where he is today lacking the basic ability to shoot has he?

What is your experience in football child?

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Oh right, and so Barnes has made it to where he is today lacking the basic ability to shoot has he?

What is your experience in football child?

The hilarious thing about WW's post you just quoted is that Sandaza had looked complete horseshit up until that point, yet he thinks Sandaza saved the day to a greater degree than our other goalscorer

 

[SittingbourneSeagull]

That I agree with İbrahim Tatlıses.

If it wasn't for Sandaza, I'd have come home yesterday pretty pissed off with Barnes for wasting glorious chances that someone with the basic ability to shoot could have scored.

He might turn out to be a good signing, and time will tell, but he needs to sort his finishing out before anyone should start raving about him.

As hard as it is for some to believe though, I'd much rather he scored the goals that fire us up than "win" arguments on a message board...

You were probably pretty pissed off because you had nothing to moan about, but the trouble is that negative twats like you will always find something. And as for your claim that you would have put away one of his chances I would pay good money to see you get a game for Brighton just so you could see that it is not as easy as you obviously seem to think it is.

Barnes was denied by two top quality saves by their keeper who kept them in the match. He also scored a great header and hit the post in the first half. In the second he hit the bar from an extremely acute angle, and throughout the match worked his socks off for the team as well as finding excellent positions in front of goal. You sir are a complete cock.

 

[Questions]

I think he is moving in the right direction - finishing apart - thats coming - I think he needs to toughen up a bit when he has his back to goal. There is a time for falling over claiming the foul and a time for trying to actually win the thing or at least flick it on. Murray has learnt that and did it perfect yesterday. All in all though he is improving much quicker than I thought he would when I first saw him.

 

[tube train]

i think hes got the making of a good player. but at the moment he annoys me so much.. 5 or 6 chances yesterday for one goal..and seems he scores the hard ones

anyway the lad is 22 hes got time on his side and just needs to develop... look at what Gus has done to El Abd and Elphick...can he work his magic again