[Politics] Is Woke a significant factor in any upcoming General Election?

[Uh_huh_him]

Indeed it was, which is why I've voted for all of three major parties over the course of my voting lifetime.

I just don't get how anyone can be a Tory or Labour voter no matter what. Both parties have, at different times, represented what I felt was best for the country and both parties, at times, clearly weren't, to me at least.

To keep sticking your cross in the same box time after time just seems a bit weird to me.

It depends on your core beliefs to a certain extent.

if they are socialist in nature, that doesn't really give you too many options, particularly within a first past the post system.

 

[Lawros Lip]

No.

There will be many boomers who will continue to vote Torys, as they're doing alright out of all of this.

But there will also be many boomers who think, hang on, my kids and grandkids are in trouble here - and will vote for a party that they think will help their future.

Young people are really struggling. For some 'woke' (hate that stupid term) might be a factor, particularly if they have decided they feel as if they are a minority of some description... but I expect more so that the economy and the environment will be considerably more significant issues for a vast majority.

Boomer here. There’re not getting my vote.

 

[Deadly Danson]

Indeed it was, which is why I've voted for all of three major parties over the course of my voting lifetime.

I just don't get how anyone can be a Tory or Labour voter no matter what. Both parties have, at different times, represented what I felt was best for the country and both parties, at times, clearly weren't, to me at least.

To keep sticking your cross in the same box time after time just seems a bit weird to me.

Yep, same here. Have voted for all the majors over the years. My Dad always voted Tory and I always used to ask him what he would do if the Tories suddenly adopted all Labour's policies and vice versa and he never really had an answer. What I can't understand right now is how any sane person could possibly in their wildest dreams think the Tories have done a good job and are worth voting for. I simply don't have the comprehension bar just possibly having a particularly good local MP.

 

[Javeaseagull]

Yep, boomer here and they ain’t getting my vote either. I’m woke, or at least I hope I am. Not sure how it became a dirty word? I am also an economic migrant and not sure how that also became a dirty word. Surely most of America are economic migrants or descended from them? Steve Jobs father was an economic migrant from Syria. They didn’t do too bad for themselves.

 

[Littlemo]

Is it not possible now to just, you know, pick the one you think has the best policies and not be signing yourself up to some sort of cult following for whatever people believe that 'side' stands for?

What policies? Those are now just vague ideas that they put out there and no longer bear much relationship to the actual actions they take once in office, like giving tons of our tax money to their mates or helping kill off migrants. If you don’t really know what they are going to do, how can you vote for them?

That’s part of the issue, all of the options are terrible.

 

[A1X]

People who have a problem with “woke” things are already voting for right wing parties, I don’t think there’s enough to change anything

 

[Weststander]

As someone 'relatively' young, am I naive in thinking that elections once were based around which party you felt was best to vote for?

Now, any election seems to have been turned into some weird contest where it's completely black and white, good vs evil, "oh, you're RIGHT wing? Oh, you're a LEFTY?"

Is it not possible now to just, you know, pick the one you think has the best policies and not be signing yourself up to some sort of cult following for whatever people believe that 'side' stands for?

This.

Next to no one genuinely looks a manifestos.

Instead an immature and lazy "I hate the ..... ".

I'm a floating voter attracted to Tories 92, Labour 97, Greens 01. After a peruse through key matters to me.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

People who have a problem with “woke” things are already voting for right wing parties, I don’t think there’s enough to change anything

What do you deem woke and having a problem with woke?

One of the main "woke/anti woke" discussions at the moment is around trans folk, most sane people want them to live without fear, but at the same time want an open discussion around safe spaces/jails/schools, is that anti woke?

It's being politicised by both sides currently, which doesn't allow a sensible conversation.

 

[A1X]

What do you deem woke and having a problem with woke?

One of the main "woke/anti woke" discussions at the moment is around trans folk, most sane people want them to live without fear, but at the same time want an open discussion around safe spaces/jails/schools, is that anti woke?

It's being politicised by both sides currently, which doesn't allow a sensible conversation.

My use of the inverted commas was as an indication of being those who think all kinds of things are “woke”.

Anti-racism dance on BGT? Woke.
Taking a knee at Premier League games? Woke.
Rainbows during Pride month? Woke.

That’s not to do with the trans debate as such (a subject about which I am not even remotely well informed enough to have a strong opinion), but those spluttering social media / GB News types who think anything post-1960 is terrible.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

My use of the inverted commas was as an indication of being those who think all kinds of things are “woke”.

Anti-racism dance on BGT? Woke.
Taking a knee at Premier League games? Woke.
Rainbows during Pride month? Woke.

That’s not to do with the trans debate as such (a subject about which I am not even remotely well informed enough to have a strong opinion), but those spluttering social media / GB News types who think anything post-1960 is terrible.

Pride month always makes me chuckle, people enraged by flags, but also companies clearly just using it as a marketing tool winding each other up.

Personally think the Trans debate is the main driver of woke/anti work argument at the moment, more so in the states ,but it seems to be in the press most days with the fringes entrenched into their view that won't change.

Most people don't really give a toss unless it something that changes their day to day lives.

 

[Lawros Lip]

I think the ‘anti-woke’ brigade always seize upon the most extreme examples from climate, trans debates etc. allowing them to dismiss any remotely progressive policies as ‘woke’ and therefore ridiculous .

 

[nicko31]

It’s significant for the Tories because it’s all they have left, they know their Brexit experiment has failed, they know their policies have failed.

It’s desperation adopted from crypto fascists on the other side of the pond. Can’t see it winning over too many

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

It depends on your core beliefs to a certain extent.

if they are socialist in nature, that doesn't really give you too many options, particularly within a first past the post system.

This. That said, I have voted tory in the past and could have easily voted Lib Dem in the past...it's just my core beliefs for a long time have been best represented by Labour.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I'm not sure it will have an impact on the end result, but you only have to look at the increased use of the word to know that the right will try and make it their latest divisive tactic. Woke people. Woke banks. Woke foods and drinks. Woke weather. Woke pretty much everything that moves or breathes! Where will it stop?

There's a chance it could backfire through overuse – either that or people calling out those who use it (as I did yesterday with a mate of mine – yes, I said it was shitehouse) as sounding stupid and childish.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I have voted for all three major parties in my life, depending on their policies.
Now, the culture wars seem to want to label everyone, and choose sides, like you’d choose a team to support.

Nobody will ever change me from being a Brighton fan, but my politics are kind and compassionate. Live and let live, helping the poor, providing services that we all contribute to, because we all benefit from it.
Sometimes, that means I vote for the candidate rather than the rosette colour.
I hate deceit, bullying and greed.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

This. That said, I have voted tory in the past and could have easily voted Lib Dem in the past...it's just my core beliefs for a long time have been best represented by Labour.

I have never voted Tory and doubt, I ever will.
I have voted Lib Dem, back when the Labour party were lucky if they kept their deposit in Worthing.

Things have changed in that regard, I believe.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Manufactured by those on the right to distract us from all the sh*t that's going on.

Woke = awake and aware. I'm happy to be woke.

Precisely, on both counts.

Typical of the right wing to take a term popularized by a foreigner, Trudeau (who is basically French) and use it as a stick to beat decent people with. ****s.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

who is manufacturing it though? outrage comes from both sides from what i've seen.

it wont be an issue that sways voters, will be a high profile, toxic shouting match. anyone with a firm view either way will be derided and dismiss by the other side.

I haven't seen any outrage.

The right uses the word in much the same way they used to use words like 'poof'.

Those accused of being woke largely just shake their heads sadly. I do, anyway.

 

[clapham_gull]

The conundrum I'd argue the Conservatives have now, is they've seen how they can sneak in (in certain areas) with an anti-Green agenda or very local concerns.

Bit like the Lib Dems of old, they may have to fight the election doing something different nationally than locally.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I have never voted Tory and doubt, I ever will.
I have voted Lib Dem, back when the Labour party were lucky if they kept their deposit in Worthing.

Things have changed in that regard, I believe.

I voted Tory when I was 18. Moving away to study in London, and quickly becoming aware of the world, changed this. I cannot see myself ever voting for them again. The FPTP system means I will most likely vote Lab or Lib but I'd love to see PR in my time which will open us all up to a meaningful vote for many more parties.