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Nathan

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Jan 8, 2010
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Say a player gets sin-binned for 10 minutes, what happens if then a player gets injured and needs treatment, which takes 10 minutes? Is the sin-binned player allowed back on the field?
 


DavidRyder

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Jul 23, 2013
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I guess it would cut a lot of the needless yellows out (ie back chatting, time wasting). Not sure i'm for it though.
 


Sussex Nomad

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Aug 26, 2010
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It'll cut out of lot of needless yellow cards for a lot of needless sin bins, nothing will change appalling refereeing.
 




Shatner's Bassoon

The Puff Pastry Hangman
Feb 12, 2012
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No, things are fine as they are. This could lead to regular 10-minute spells of bus parking as teams wait for players to get back on the pitch.
 


Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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Say a player gets sin-binned for 10 minutes, what happens if then a player gets injured and needs treatment, which takes 10 minutes? Is the sin-binned player allowed back on the field?

No - that's the risk you take surely?
 


Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
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I think it's a great idea.
Say a player gets sin-binned for 10 minutes, what happens if then a player gets injured and needs treatment, which takes 10 minutes? Is the sin-binned player allowed back on the field?

Serves them right, no? Why would they be allowed back on? Feck me we didn't get any concessions up at Hillsborough when we had four players go off injured.
 




half time scores

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Mar 19, 2012
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Say a player gets sin-binned for 10 minutes, what happens if then a player gets injured and needs treatment, which takes 10 minutes? Is the sin-binned player allowed back on the field?

I would have thought no, otherwise there would be an increase in feigned injurys.
 


portslade seagull

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Jul 19, 2003
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Definitely a good thing. As an ex ref this would help immensely. It would stop all the backchat and niggly fouls in the box. The offenders team mates would soon get the hump if the same player is binned to often. This could also be used against divers as well to eradicate that from the game
 


DavidRyder

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Jul 23, 2013
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Following up on my last comment about time wasting, this scenario proves it could be a dud idea:

So it's 90 mins up, 6 mins of injury time announced, and the keeper of the team that has the result it needs takes a little while to take a goal kick. The ref decides he's time wasting, off he goes for the remainder of the game, massive advantage to the other side that's chasing the game. Booking a goalie for time wasting is not black and white, refs seem to make random judgements on it.

Based on my case study, I think the sin bin idea could have flaws!
 
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Rod Marsh

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Aug 9, 2013
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Following up on my last comment about time wasting, this scenario proves it could be a dud idea:

So it's 90 mins up, 6 mins of injury time announced, and the keeper of team that has the result it needs takes a little while to take a goal kick. The ref decides he's time wasting, off he goes for the remainder of the game, massive advantage to the other side that's chasing the game. Booking a goalie for time wasting is not black and white, refs seem to make random judgements on it.

Based on my case study, I think the sin bin idea could have flaws!

I think that is a great example of where this would work! What keeper will waste time???!!!! They always get a warning before any action is taken anyway. Time wasting is one of the few areas of the game that i'd like to see addressed. It drives me crazy. Sheff Wed and Cardiff at home prime examples.
 


Albion my Albion

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Following up on my last comment about time wasting, this scenario proves it could be a dud idea:

So it's 90 mins up, 6 mins of injury time announced, and the keeper of the team that has the result it needs takes a little while to take a goal kick. The ref decides he's time wasting, off he goes for the remainder of the game, massive advantage to the other side that's chasing the game. Booking a goalie for time wasting is not black and white, refs seem to make random judgements on it.

Based on my case study, I think the sin bin idea could have flaws!

in ice hockey a non-gk is substituted for the goalkeeper in the "sin-bin" when the gk commits the infraction. Two infractions is an automatic red card.
 


Nathan

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Jan 8, 2010
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I think it's a great idea.


Serves them right, no? Why would they be allowed back on? Feck me we didn't get any concessions up at Hillsborough when we had four players go off injured.

Not sure I was that clear. The player would be allowed back on because the 10 minutes has passed, even though it was 10 minutes of treatment. Is the 10 minutes, '10 minutes when the ball is in play'? Otherwise there will be an increase in feigned injuries and time wasting.
 


DavidRyder

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Jul 23, 2013
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I think that is a great example of where this would work! What keeper will waste time???!!!! They always get a warning before any action is taken anyway. Time wasting is one of the few areas of the game that i'd like to see addressed. It drives me crazy. Sheff Wed and Cardiff at home prime examples.

I agree with you - but there would need to be consistency amongst refs as to how much time is time wasting, otherwise teams could get shafted and others get away with it.

Pretty much like it is now really!
 




Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,360
Brighton factually.....
What about a free for all after a bad tackle such as the game against Sheff Wed Murray got sent off, there was pushing and shoving all over the place stockdale would have got one, and several others.

How many can get binned at once ? that could lead to six aside which might be fun as long as you dont looooose obviously
 


Albion my Albion

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Not sure I was that clear. The player would be allowed back on because the 10 minutes has passed, even though it was 10 minutes of treatment. Is the 10 minutes, '10 minutes when the ball is in play'? Otherwise there will be an increase in feigned injuries and time wasting.

The ref would have to have a separate timer for the sin-bin and stop that when he starts the timer than adds injury time.
 


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