[Albion] Is Potter 1 game away from being sacked?

[Justice]

I could honestly pick a better starting eleven, we aren’t good enough to leave the best talent on the bench and hope they do some damage second half.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Here's a fact - not an opinion. If the manager of any other premier league club had lost six games in a row he would be sacked. So why is this guy still at our club ? I'm genuinely mystified.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

No. And I'll state now, I am NOT a 'Potter out'. But its the worrying nature of the defeats that are now stacking up, one after the other.

Previously we've put up a fight, caused problems, looked dynamic, been solid and difficult to beat. Thats now GONE. Since half time at Old Trafford, as [MENTION=232]Simster[/MENTION] correctly states, the form of our senior players has fallen off a cliff. I don't know why. I don't know how. But we are a shadow of the team that was previously so obstinate, staying in games, hitting late goals to salvage results.

Maybe that was all luck ? I dunno. But I have literally not seen us play a decent half of football since Man U. Everything went to shit after half time that night, when Biss got mugged and Ronaldo ploughed it in. We've been flakey and crap ever since.

Agree completely with your last paragraph in particular. I started a thread about it after the Burnley defeat. We were brilliant at Old Trafford in the first half. We were also cocky though. The ball was pinged around like Brazil but without their intent to score goals. Either that failure caused a catastrophic loss of confidence or the players aren’t as good as they thought they were. I don’t believe the manager should be sacked even if we lose every game remaining this season. Rather the fans need to set realistic expectations. This is a shit and grubby league to be in if you are not a star struck, celebrity come dancing, bake off type of fan. The aim is to stay in it and keep getting the pay cheques which are in turn all passed on to the players. That’s it I’m afraid.

 

[Stat Brother]

I don't recall lots of Potter outs after Burnley/Villa/Newcastle. I don't see how anyone who wasn't Potter out after the Newcastle loss (on the back of losses against burnley and villa, one win in 10, 5 losses in 6) would be Potter out now - did anyone really expect victories against liverpool and spurs? Is losing to a team in the title race and another trying to get top 4 really yourr breaking point?

Spot on.

Sure the manner of the defeats is irksome and they make it easy to point to wholesale failure, but:-

The Tracker Never Lies.


Every August I get titsy with [MENTION=3734]Giraffe[/MENTION] because I believe the tracker is too negative for a team who has gone through the first season wobbles of EPL survival.

Every May I'm am proven to be loud wrong.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Here's a fact - not an opinion. If the manager of any other premier league club had lost six games in a row he would be sacked. So why is this guy still at our club ? I'm genuinely mystified.

Liverpool lost six home games in a row last season. Not quite the same, maybe worse..

 

[HalfaSeatOn]

He’s got a brand, a style of play. Opposition managers know it and counter it. He persists because it’s his brand even though it’s not working. He won’t change. He doesn’t have the players to make a sustained effort in the EPL using this style. Tony Bloom doesn’t match the required player investment. Things are going to have to get more pragmatic from all quarters but doubt they will. Slowly but surely we’re being squeezed out of the EPL

 

[Springal]

He’s got a brand, a style of play. Opposition managers know it and counter it. He persists because it’s his brand even though it’s not working. He won’t change. He doesn’t have the players to make a sustained effort in the EPL using this style. Tony Bloom doesn’t match the required player investment. Things are going to have to get more pragmatic from all quarters.

Pretty much this for me. The fact we are still starting March, Dunk, Duffy & Gross 5 years on is baffling.

Big overhaul needed in the summer but not sure if we have the appetite or spending power for it - nor if we have the direction now Ashworth is gone

 

[Barnet Seagull]

Work hard when challenging for Europe then
Maybe unconsciously mentally check out when that is no longer a possibility.

Seems straightforward to me.

Also we are generally shit until spring.

I think the break is needed.

 

[doogie004]

Not a chance he is sacked. 6 losses is bad but 3 of them are against Liverpool, Spurs, & United.

Maybe not but 3 home wins all season 12 since he’s been here more about his record than just last 6


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[Clive Walker]

Maybe not but 3 home wins all season 12 since he’s been here more about his record than just last 6


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This. His record is actually very poor and not too different from CH. some people opinions on him are overly inflated simply because pep and klopp spoke him up a bit. It means nothing.

 

[Del of Albion]

Pretty much this for me. The fact we are still starting March, Dunk, Duffy & Gross 5 years on is baffling.

Big overhaul needed in the summer but not sure if we have the appetite or spending power for it - nor if we have the direction now Ashworth is gone

Did Ashworth see this coming hence jumping ship?

 

[amexer]

If they dont beat Norwich can see crowd turning. What a good decision by club to get renewals in March

 

[zefarelly]

Not a chance he is sacked. 6 losses is bad but 3 of them are against Liverpool, Spurs, & United.

2 of those teams are/have recently been, in dissaray, and there for the taking.

Potters record isn't very good, his home record is an embarassment.

we were more enjoyable to watch in the mid 90's, at least we tried and won a few games.

 

[Bold Seagull]

2 of those teams are/have recently been, in dissaray, and there for the taking.

Potters record isn't very good, his home record is an embarassment.

we were more enjoyable to watch in the mid 90's, at least we tried and won a few games.

Oh yes, those glory days of Div 2 1995/96 at home, P23 W6 D7 L10, relegated. What fun.

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

Oh yes, those glory days of Div 2 1995/96 at home, P23 W6 D7 L10, relegated. What fun.

Won six at home. Just checked and we also scored 29 goals at home that season!

Sounds more entertaining than Brighton Nil rolling over and getting our bellies tickled from 20 mins as has been happened quite consistently at home since Xmas.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I am not sure Ashworths remit had really anything to do with day to day running of the first team squad (training and tactics) and was recruitment.

These are the same players except Burn

True. But when see key staff like Morley and Ashworth leave, as well as key players who are not replaced, it must affect moral.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

If they dont beat Norwich can see crowd turning. What a good decision by club to get renewals in March

Isn’t it in March every year ?

 

[Pavilionaire]

No he’s not and he shouldn’t be.

He needs backing in the summer. We’ve been incredibly complacement in our recruitment for the last 2 seasons really and this squad needs a big refresh in the sunmer.

I wouldn't say complacent, I'd say we've got our priorities wrong. Buying for tomorrow is important, but not if you are empty today.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

True. But when see key staff like Morley and Ashworth leave, as well as key players who are not replaced, it must affect moral.

Duffy out on the pull you mean ?

 

[The Optimist]

Here's a fact - not an opinion. If the manager of any other premier league club had lost six games in a row he would be sacked. So why is this guy still at our club ? I'm genuinely mystified.

Well Norwich have lost 7 games in a row and not sacked their manager. So despite your claim it is not a fact.