Is Norman Baker the greatest man in politics?

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Robot Chicken

Seriously?
Jul 5, 2003
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Chicken World
From today's Daily Mail. :angry:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...le_id=436522&in_page_id=1772&in_author_id=382

Is Norman Baker the greatest man in politics?
08:23am 16th February 2007

Doubtless there are innocent explanations in certain cases. But after yesterday's publication of the deeply embarrass-ing details about the MPs' expenses claims, it looks very much as if there is organised theft and corruption going on at Westminster.

Needless to say the House of Commons - led by the wretched Speaker Martin = fought a long campaign to keep yesterday's details secret. Expensive lawyers were hired - again at public expense - to make the case against publication.

The rearguard battle would have succeeded but for one man, Norman Baker, the Liberal Democrat MP for Lewes. He plugged away for two years for his col-leagues' expenses to be made public, and eventually he won.

This morning Baker is the most unpopular man in the Commons. When MPs reassemble after their mid-term break next week, he will get the same treatment as a prison nark.

And yet it is worth pondering the real reason why Baker is so unpopular. It is because he is a deeply honest man of utter integrity who is determined that British voters should know the truth about how we are governed.

Baker is neither flashy, smooth nor glam-orous. He does not sit on the Front Benches. But he is, in his own way, the most admirable and heroic MP at Westminster.

In a decent world, all of Britain's 650 MPs would be like the indefatigable and incorruptible Norman Baker. Shamefully, there is only one of him.

This week marked only the latest of Baker's many victories over Britain's self-serving politi-cal establishment. His greatest achievement was forcing Peter Mandelson to admit to his links to the Indian tycoon Srichand Hinduja, a revelation that swiftly led to Mandelson's second and final resignation as a Cabinet Minister.

For this, Norman Baker earned the hatred of his own party, as well as most of the political class. He was cut dead in the Commons corridors even by fellow Liberal Democrat MPs for weeks afterwards.

You would think that an opposition party would have been overjoyed to see the demise of a Cabinet minister, but the shameful truth is that they felt an instinctive sympathy for Mandelson whom they regarded as a fellow member of the political elite and therefore in need of protection from an out-sider like Norman Baker.

It was a lonely and embattled time for this courageous man. He was learning the hard way that there are no rewards in life for telling the truth, exposing hypocrisy and doing the right thing.

He is a very modest man. When I rang him yesterday and asked him to list his achievements, he wouldn't. "I don't keep a check of them," he replied. I asked him for his secret, and his reply was revealing.

"I have no particular ambition," he replied. "I don't want to lead my party. I don't want to be in the House of Lords. That gives you a tremendous liberation."

Before becoming an MP, he ran a branch of Our Price Records, where he would help youngsters to find the latest Showaddywaddy disc on the shelves, and he remains phenomenally knowledgeable about pop music.

His political methods flow from these early interests. He has something of the obsessive nature of the amateur enthusiast. He has a good head for detail and knows where, in the great, dusty attics of Whitehall and Westminster, he will find the buried nuggets that he is seeking.

Physically he is not a striking figure. He has a comb-over hairdo, a pretty terrible fashion sense and a nasal, slightly irritating voice brushed by a faint West Country accent. If The Archers ever intro-duced a character who was an accountant, he would sound like Norman Baker.

When he arrived in the House of Commons in 1997 there was no shortage of people quick to write him off. Matthew Parris, the former Tory MP-turned-newspaper-jour-nalist, sneeringly discounted the unglamorous Baker as "a bore".

For the political elite of London, this unprepossessing man had insufficient polish. He did not seem very interested in things like expen-sive lunches and disloyal gossip. He did not seem to be a man easily suborned. Nor, to be brutal, was he sexy or modern. That made the image-bending party cadres uneasy.

The truth was that Baker was a loner. Yes, he may be on the plain side, visually. Yes, he may be an annoying, unclubbable - scruffy even - monk.

But Parliament needs such people. Baker's chosen seat on the Commons benches is right at the end of the Chamber, just below the sword-wearing Serjeant at Arms, away from the seats occupied by his party leadership.

When the Speaker calls his name he stands almost at a stoop, for there is little that is flamboyant or confident in his demeanour. His out-of-date trousers, which do not always match his jacket, flap around his shins.

He is sometimes to be found wearing sports jackets or yellow ties or suede shoes - the wardrobe of a prep school Classics master rather than a Blair-era politician. He never matches the Labour and Tory thrusters for their sleekness and shine.

Yet ministers have learned to listen closely to him. They have learned to beware giving him a loose answer. They have grown to respect, if not exactly to admire, the econ-omy of his queries, the brevity of his often deadly interventions, and his remarkable persistence.

All this may, to the stranger, sound insignificant. But to stand outside the pack in politics takes guts. Baker persists with his campaigns despite often rancorous opposition.

Sometimes he will be heckled by Labour MPs sitting just 5ft or so in front of him - he stands just in front of Labour's 'awkward squad' bench - yet Baker sticks to his principles and to his arguments and keeps pinging in his Parliamentary written questions, demanding factual replies from a civil service machine which remains, despite Labour's worst efforts, the servant of the people.

Now he has won this victory over MPs, Baker's latest campaign concerns the death of government scientist Dr David Kelly at the height of the row between the present administration and the BBC in the summer of 2003.

Baker's forensic mind has already picked apart much of the evidence accepted far too readily by the partly discredited Hutton Inquiry.

He has identified key inconsisten-cies about the police investigation, arguing that it is incredibly unlikely that Dr Kelly did kill himself with his blunt gardening knife, as the official version has it.

It sounds a conspiracy too far - but Baker has a habit of being right. His search for the truth about Dr Kelly recalls that long fight by Labour's Tam Dalyell to discover the truth about the Belgrano.

Indeed, Norman Baker keeps alive the tradition of bloody-minded individuality in the Commons, as practised by just such men as Dalyell. No praise is too high for brave, lonely, honest men like these.
 










mona

The Glory Game
Jul 9, 2003
5,471
High up on the South Downs.
Unbelievable claptrap.
The idiot journo even thinks he has a West Country accent which is amazing as Scumbag has never lived there.
"Physically he is not a striking figure....."?!

You can always trust the Daily Mail to get it wrong.
 




Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,877
Brighton, UK
Praise from the Daily Mail? He MUST be a kunnt.
 


Seagull73

Sienna's Heaven
Jul 26, 2003
3,382
Not Lewes
I'm sorry, but he is one of the most unremarkable MP's, which is the reason why he is on this witch hunt, because it is the only way he will make himself famous.

The guy is clearly obsessed by it, and knowing he will never make a cabinet minister being a Lib Dem MP, this is the way he knows how.

Don't forget, he is shifty, loves slinging mud as he has done right the way through the Falmer campaign, and isn't afraid of telling a lie or two in the process, ala hotel shananagans.

I feel sorry for the Journo who has been taken in by his total shit.
 


Woodchip

It's all about the bikes
Aug 28, 2004
14,460
Shaky Town, NZ
mona said:
Unbelievable claptrap.
The idiot journo even thinks he has a West Country accent which is amazing as Scumbag has never lived there.
"Physically he is not a striking figure....."?!

You can always trust the Daily Mail to get it wrong.
A rural Sussex accent sounds similar to a West Country accent, but slightly more rounded. Easy mistake to make, as many people think that my old man is West Country, when he was brought up in Ripe (near Berwick, near Drusillas).
 




mona

The Glory Game
Jul 9, 2003
5,471
High up on the South Downs.
Seagull73 said:
I'm sorry, but he is one of the most unremarkable MP's, which is the reason why he is on this witch hunt, because it is the only way he will make himself famous.

The guy is clearly obsessed by it, and knowing he will never make a cabinet minister being a Lib Dem MP, this is the way he knows how.

Don't forget, he is shifty, loves slinging mud as he has done right the way through the Falmer campaign, and isn't afraid of telling a lie or two in the process, ala hotel shananagans.

I feel sorry for the Journo who has been taken in by his total shit.
Spot on.
 


Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,097
Lancing
UTTER C*NT :angry:
 


mona

The Glory Game
Jul 9, 2003
5,471
High up on the South Downs.
Woodchip said:
A rural Sussex accent sounds similar to a West Country accent, but slightly more rounded. Easy mistake to make, as many people think that my old man is West Country, when he was brought up in Ripe (near Berwick, near Drusillas).

Except that Baker was born in Aberdeen and moved to the Essex suburbs of London when he was 12 or 13. He has no real connection to Sussex hence his colonialist nimby behaviour and hatred of BHAFC.
 








TSB

Captain Hindsight
Jul 7, 2003
17,666
Lansdowne Place, Hove
"incorruptible Norman Baker"

...yeah...

Interesting that the hack hasn't mentioned that Baker's has one of the highest (like 10th or something) expenses bill. It's great to now know how much we are paying for him to fly to Australia to complain about people ruining the environment!

Scum of the Earth...just like so many Lib Dems.
 




Robot Chicken

Seriously?
Jul 5, 2003
13,154
Chicken World
We need to leave some comments...

Here's what readers have had to say so far. Why not add your thoughts below?

I totally endorse everything that has been said about Norman Baker. He is my MP and although I do not support the Liberal Democrats I would vote Norman Baker into office even if he represented the Raving Monster Loony Party. We could not have a better MP. Every problem and difficulty his constituents have he is there helping them seek justice and truth, and he finds it.
I am not sure I agree with you about his sartorial taste, I haven't noticed that it's that bad.

- Valerie Pardoe, Denton, Newhaven.
 


JJ McClure

Go Jags
Jul 7, 2003
11,108
Hassocks
Downloaded Penguin said:
Is Norman Baker the greatest man in politics?

I assume you are looking for a more indepth answer than...No, he's a c*nt :angry:
 




sussexfatboy

New member
Jan 4, 2005
106
Hastings
A terrible article. Baker's got a slight Scottish accent, not a carrot cruncher.

However, were it not for his stance on Falmer, most of us would probably regard Baker as a top man and great MP.
 




Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,877
Brighton, UK
sussexfatboy said:
However, were it not for his stance on Falmer, most of us would probably regard Baker as a top man and great MP.
Yes. Much as if it wasn't for the death of 9 million people, Stalin wasn't THAT bad.
 


Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
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Man of Harveys said:
Yes. Much as if it wasn't for the death of 9 million people, Stalin wasn't THAT bad.
Yes, and say what you like about Mussolini and Hitler they DID make the trains run on time. Like Norman they're a bit misunderstood just because they were a tad undemocratic.
 


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