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1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,233
That plus the non-stop bleating from the likes of Robben has really put me off the Dutch.

I don't mind the Dutch personally, although Robbens sniper routines are tiresome, especially from such a gifted player.

Of all the teams in the semi's Brasil get me fed up the most with their antics, although I said pre tournament I think they'll win it and still think they'll probably sneak it. I just want the best footballing team to win it really, whoever that turns out to be.
 




maltaseagull

Well-known member
Feb 25, 2009
13,361
Zabbar- Malta
Van Persie was awful apart from his pen. ( Does he know the offside rules?) How brave was Van Gal to swap goalies. But to be fair Netherlands looked liked they wanted to in all the way through as opposed to Costa Rica.
 






Hyperion

New member
Nov 1, 2010
5,314
I don't like the Dutch. C'mon argies. The goalie sub could have gone either way so I'm not giving that any credence.

He could've, however he went the right way twice. Whatever way you shake it up, it was the right decision
 






Spider

New member
Sep 15, 2007
3,614
No. There is no data to say it was the right decision. How many penalties did the existing keeper save? No data. Luckily he only needed to save twice.

Hmm. Not sure that logic really works, unless you would argue that there has never been a good substitution, since we never get to see what would have happened if the sub hadn't been made.

I'm not sure what the BBC team were making such a fuss about though. I'm sure that both keepers knew the deal, and much as it must have been disappointing to be taken off, even when knowing it was inevitable, Krul would have had the same sense of disappointment when he was told that, whilst he was their best penalty stopper, he wouldn't be able to play in the actual game.
 




The Lemming Stomper

Under the flag
Apr 1, 2007
2,741
Saltdean
No. There is no data to say it was the right decision. How many penalties did the existing keeper save? No data. Luckily he only needed to save twice.

What kind of data do you need ? Maybe Costa Rica should have had another go with Cillessen in goal :ffsparr:
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
He could've, however he went the right way twice. Whatever way you shake it up, it was the right decision

He went the right way for every shot.
Hmm. Not sure that logic really works, unless you would argue that there has never been a good substitution, since we never get to see what would have happened if the sub hadn't been made.

I'm not sure what the BBC team were making such a fuss about though. I'm sure that both keepers knew the deal, and much as it must have been disappointing to be taken off, even when knowing it was inevitable, Krul would have had the same sense of disappointment when he was told that, whilst he was their best penalty stopper, he wouldn't be able to play in the actual game.

I agree. The BBC team seemed to think it was a shocking substitution, but both keepers knew what was happening and both celebrated when the pens were saved. It appeared to be a prearranged decision.
 


Dan Aitch

New member
May 31, 2013
2,287
Krul's behaviour in trying to 'psyche out' his opponents may have been crucial. Whether it was or not he deserved a yellow card the first time and a red the second. Poor, poor sportsmanship. IMHO, obviously.
 




Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
58,792
hassocks
Krul's behaviour in trying to 'psyche out' his opponents may have been crucial. Whether it was or not he deserved a yellow card the first time and a red the second. Poor, poor sportsmanship. IMHO, obviously.

It was horrible wasn't it.

He should have been booked at least
 


Albumen

Don't wait for me!
Jan 19, 2010
11,495
Brighton - In your face
Hmm. Not sure that logic really works, unless you would argue that there has never been a good substitution, since we never get to see what would have happened if the sub hadn't been made.

I'm not sure what the BBC team were making such a fuss about though. I'm sure that both keepers knew the deal, and much as it must have been disappointing to be taken off, even when knowing it was inevitable, Krul would have had the same sense of disappointment when he was told that, whilst he was their best penalty stopper, he wouldn't be able to play in the actual game.

It was pisshed logic.
 


Mo Gosfield

Well-known member
Aug 11, 2010
6,362
Bobby Robson should have brought on Beasant for Shilton in 90 would have given us a much better chance of progression in the shoot out.

I have been saying for years that every time we name a tournament squad, the third goalie should be a penalty specialist ( e.g Mark Crossley ) All goalkeepers have different skill-sets and Shilton couldn't save a penalty for toffee and Seaman was hardly any better. Van Gaal demonstrated last night that it is a valid call that managers can make. Outfield players are brought on because they are penalty specialists...why shouldn't goalies come on?
It could have made the difference between us being regular ' near-missers ' or actually winning one or two tournaments.
 


Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
I just want the best footballing team to win it really, whoever that turns out to be.

That's why I'm hoping for a Germany v Holland final. They are the only two teams I've seen play with any fluidity on a conststant basis.

Brazil and the Argies have got to the semis by default, they been crap but everyone they've played has managed to be even more crap!!
 




Paris

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2010
4,127
13th district
I am right in thinking that Leicester City tried a similar strategy with bringing on a giant goalkeeper to replace Kevin Poole deep into extra time of a play off final against Palace 18 or so years ago? Then Steve Claridge shinned one into the top corner in the dying seconds to send them into the Premier League.
 


Kenhead

New member
Oct 1, 2003
7,054
Brighton
Whilst Krul was acting a dick it did make me wonder if that was the reason why he had come on, you couldn't imagine the other keeper doing them antics.
 


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