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[Misc] Is it "time" to stop changing the clocks back & forth?

Should the world discontinue changing it's clocks in the spring & autumn?

  • Yes, we can do without Daylight Saving time/BST just get used to doing things in the dark.

    Votes: 35 47.3%
  • No, I like it when we change our clocks. Keep Daylight Saving Time.

    Votes: 19 25.7%
  • No, we don't need to change something I'm quite comfortable doing already. Keep Daylight Saving Time

    Votes: 14 18.9%
  • Yes, I hate losing sleep just to gain some daylight. Do away with Daylight Saving Time.

    Votes: 6 8.1%

  • Total voters
    74








Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
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Jul 17, 2003
20,460
Valley of Hangleton
Keep as is,

Leave GMT all year round = sun rises in Summer around 4am which means light at 3.30am
Move to BST and leave permanently = Very late sunrises in winter and 10 pm sunsets in the summer
 








Javeaseagull

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Feb 22, 2014
2,983
I’m probably as far west as Brighton from the Meridian longitude but in a different time zone. I blame Napoleon! Never understood the “Daylight saving” thing. The days are the same length whatever you do.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,299
I’m probably as far west as Brighton from the Meridian longitude but in a different time zone. I blame Napoleon! Never understood the “Daylight saving” thing. The days are the same length whatever you do.
nothing to do with Napoleon, didnt even have standard time then. it came in during WWI to save energy by staying light longer in the evening during summer, while keeping morning light sensible in the winter months.

BST in the winter would be shit, sunrise only around 9am in December, GMT in summer would mean getting dark at 8pm in June, 7pm in mid August. if we stopped, everyone would be moaning in a year to reinstate it. in fact we did stop, did moan and it was reintstated.
 
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BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
19,292
Hard emough to watch games here as it is, moving the clocks makrs it harder.
We get the 9.30pm games here. I like it.
 


Han Solo

Well-known member
May 25, 2024
3,932
Keep as is,

Leave GMT all year round = sun rises in Summer around 4am which means light at 3.30am
Move to BST and leave permanently = Very late sunrises in winter and 10 pm sunsets in the summer

You get used to it... I live for those things..
 




Javeaseagull

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Feb 22, 2014
2,983
nothing to do with Napoleon, didnt even have standard time then. it came in during WWI to save energy by staying light longer in the evening during summer, while keeping morning light sensible in the winter months.

BST in the winter would be shit, sunrise only around 9am in December, GMT in summer would mean getting dark at 8pm in June, 7pm in mid August. if we stopped, everyone would be moaning in a year to reinstate it. in fact we did stop, did moan and it was reintstated.

I’ve heard the argument about accidents in the dark mornings in Scotland etc counter argued by accidents in early evening so evening things out.When working I often had 0530 starts and in the summer it had been daylight for some time. I often thought we could do with this daylight in the evenings for sport and leisure. IMO the UK would be better off in line with mainland Europe but you do not have to explain to me why that will never happen! :D
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I’ve heard the argument about accidents in the dark mornings in Scotland etc counter argued by accidents in early evening so evening things out.When working I often had 0530 starts and in the summer it had been daylight for some time. I often thought we could do with this daylight in the evenings for sport and leisure. IMO the UK would be better off in line with mainland Europe but you do not have to explain to me why that will never happen! :D
As an ardent European, I counter this with one the thing Britain can be proud of. Greenwich Meantime. GMT

Seafarers, travellers, navigators, pilots etc all use the timelines set by us. The Internatonal Dateline is a bit of a pigs ear due to random islands but apart from that, longitude and time work well together.
 


CheeseRolls

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Jan 27, 2009
6,315
Shoreham Beach
We need more not less. GMT+1 winter and GMT+2 summer for me.
Mid summer is a mess with sun rise at 4, when an extra hour of daylight in the evening would be far better. Apparently this would be terrible for a handful of scottish farmers who can go get ******* as fas as I am concerned.
 


Javeaseagull

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Feb 22, 2014
2,983
As an ardent European, I counter this with one the thing Britain can be proud of. Greenwich Meantime. GMT

Seafarers, travellers, navigators, pilots etc all use the timelines set by us. The Internatonal Dateline is a bit of a pigs ear due to random islands but apart from that, longitude and time work well together.
Fair points but I believe it was brought in to unify the UK or at least England for the benefit of railway travel. It was obvious to use Greenwich Mean Time as mariners had been using it for centuries. Just because we adjust things to be more convenient does not mean the death of GMT.
 




Perfidious Albion

Well-known member
Oct 25, 2011
6,563
At the end of my tether
We have this every year . Somebody wants to fiddle with accepted way of doing things . This system has worked well for a long time … Keep it the same ( and in a fortnight’s time don’t forget to put your clock forward )
 


Shropshire Seagull

Well-known member
Nov 5, 2004
8,937
Telford
I'd prefer to fix the root cause of the changing day length issue. The earth spins on an axis ~22 degrees off in relation to the sun so as we orbit the sun, variance in daylight length occurs and the further from the equator the greater the variance. Fix that and daylight hours won't change through the year.

One downside, mind, is that there will no longer be seasonal variation anywhere which might actually be worse than tinkering with the time twice a year.

I've always wondered why GMT lasts 5 months yet BST is 7 months?
 


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