[Albion] Is Hurzeler out of his depth?

[Zeberdi]

20 posts since Oct 22 and all but one of them are negative.
I smell palace.

fee fi fo fum

The thread was created before the second half.

Well we’ve got use to the usual post-match bedwetting threads but that some people are having to change the sheets before we’ve even barely got through 45 mins of football now is even more hilarious.

That’s not ‘entitlement’ or even just normal post match blues, it’s bladder dysfunction (and just makes them look like incontinent twats when we win )

This was another

[Albion] - We look such a poorly coached team

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

fee fi fo fum


Well we’ve got use to the usual post-match bedwetting threads but that some people are having to change the sheets before we’ve even barely got through 45 mins of football now is even more hilarious.

That’s not ‘entitlement’ or even just normal post match blues, it’s bladder dysfunction (and just makes them look like incontinent twats when we win )

This was another

[Albion] - We look such a poorly coached team

Some of those pre half time threads yesterday were a treat.

I didn't read them till after the game because, er, I was at the game.

The sun has got his hat on. Hip hip hip hooray!

 

[BLFarris]

Taken from within today's Athletic piece looking at different angles on the Premier League season so far:

Duncan Alexander: Some oblique alarm bells rang when 1990s-born tactician Fabian Hurzeler won manager of the month at his first attempt. It felt like a classic case of a decent start that owed more to muscle memory from the previous regime, especially after Brighton got Palmer-ed at Stamford Bridge. But the sensational comeback against Spurs at the weekend might be the moment Hurzeler showed that, despite being three months younger than the first text message sent on a mobile phone, he could have what it takes to succeed in Our League.

 

[Han Solo]

Taken from within today's Athletic piece looking at different angles on the Premier League season so far:

Duncan Alexander: Some oblique alarm bells rang when 1990s-born tactician Fabian Hurzeler won manager of the month at his first attempt. It felt like a classic case of a decent start that owed more to muscle memory from the previous regime, especially after Brighton got Palmer-ed at Stamford Bridge. But the sensational comeback against Spurs at the weekend might be the moment Hurzeler showed that, despite being three months younger than the first text message sent on a mobile phone, he could have what it takes to succeed in Our League.

...and yet we won the games, don't see how that works.

 

[severnside gull]

I watched our defending second when they won the ball deep in their half.

As well us having the much discussed battlers disrupters slowing their counters, we left pacy players such as Estupinan and Baleba back to cover their running in behind.

Worked a treat. A must from now on.

Yup. Maybe from the start at Toon…?

 

[kevo]

& add to that last night he was missing Pedro, Van Hecke, and O'Riley. All would start in that spine of the team.

Adingra out too. That was what was most impressive for me - the fact that we won that game without key players, at least three of whom would be expected to start for us if fit.

 

[dazzer6666]

Interesting thread

 

[JBizzle]

Taken from within today's Athletic piece looking at different angles on the Premier League season so far:

Duncan Alexander: Some oblique alarm bells rang when 1990s-born tactician Fabian Hurzeler won manager of the month at his first attempt. It felt like a classic case of a decent start that owed more to muscle memory from the previous regime, especially after Brighton got Palmer-ed at Stamford Bridge. But the sensational comeback against Spurs at the weekend might be the moment Hurzeler showed that, despite being three months younger than the first text message sent on a mobile phone, he could have what it takes to succeed in Our League.

It's interesting to me that so far this season we have beaten Man United and Spurs, drawn away at Arsenal and dropped points to a vastly improved Forest and a stubborn Ipswich, but the barometer for Hurzeler is the one game we lost?

Hurzeler has lost one game since he's taken over. He's doing just fine (maybe better)

 

[Justice]

Stevie Sidwell said he was speaking to Fabian midweek and the squad are only doing 10% of what he wants. Although a lot of managers do say similar tbf

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

None of the Chelsea goals were a direct result of the high line. Same yesterday. As yesterday is fresh in the mind, can you explain how the high line contributed to either goal? We had plenty of players in position and quite deep for both Spurs goals

True, but how many times can you allow opponents a clear run on goal before your luck runs out? And it adds to a general sense of chaos around the team.

That said, after two managers who wanted to control every aspect of play, a bit of chaos has been quite entertaining so far.

 

[Merlin57]

Perhaps our second half performance should be credited to the half time rallying call from Milner, Steel and JVP rather than just the stick to the game plan from Fab!

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Perhaps our second half performance should be credited to the half time rallying call from Milner, Steel and JVP rather than just the stick to the game plan from Fab!

Or both

 

[Machiavelli]

It's interesting to me that so far this season we have beaten Man United and Spurs, drawn away at Arsenal and dropped points to a vastly improved Forest and a stubborn Ipswich, but the barometer for Hurzeler is the one game we lost?

Hurzeler has lost one game since he's taken over. He's doing just fine (maybe better)

Played 9
Won 5
Drawn 3
Lost 1
... and the know-it-alls think it's going dreadfully

 

[A mex eyecan]

Played 9
Won 5
Drawn 3
Lost 1
... and the know-it-alls think it's going dreadfully

It’s not shabby and not going dreadfully, certainly more than a bit hairy and my nails are down to the quick.

 

[Lifelong Supporter]

There clearly seems a camaraderie and a will to win amongst the squad. This can be attributed the manager and the influence that he has.

We seem to start most games slowly and this seems to be something that needs to be addressed.

The results, rather than perhaps the performances, have been excellent.

He is certainly not out of his depth.

Most importantly perhaps the players give no indication that they feel he is out of his depth.

 

[Stato]

Interesting thread

Perhaps our second half performance should be credited to the half time rallying call from Milner, Steel and JVP rather than just the stick to the game plan from Fab!

Interesting combination of the two things. McKenzie's analysis talks of the tactical approach forcing Spurs into more 1 v 1 duels. In the first half, as evidenced by our failure to get out often, we weren't winning these duels. In the second half, after the riling up from the old heads, we won more. In microcososm Rutter lost out to two players for their first goal, but in the second half was very strong and hard to dispossess, holding off two defenders for his goal and for his assist for the third. His strength was able to be utilised in key parts of the field because Hurzeler kept faith in the high press.

It boils down to both teams being better attacking than defending. They attacked us far more effectively in the first half and we reversed that in the second. However, we won the game on moments - we created better chances. Our three goals came from chances with xGs of 0.36 or more and Mitoma's miss also had a similar xG. Spurs had only one chance in the same range, Johnson's goal. Even their second goal wasn't a particularly good chance, Bart would have saved that most times. Although each defence was under pressure, ours actually withstood it in the first half better than their's did in the second.

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[JBizzle]

True, but how many times can you allow opponents a clear run on goal before your luck runs out? And it adds to a general sense of chaos around the team.

That said, after two managers who wanted to control every aspect of play, a bit of chaos has been quite entertaining so far.

But how many times did those players run clear on goal because of cheap turnovers in midfield or individual errors? I'd hazard a guess to say most of them. The problem isn't the high line, it's being poor in possession in tight areas. That isn't a tactical issue, it's an execution one.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Interesting thread

I used to like reading threads on twitter but you can't do it anymore now it's X, unless you register an account with them.

 

[golddene]

I’m a dinosaur granted , but I would prefer Fabian to have an old head with him in the dugout, someone with experience at the top level EPL/Championship.

Someone who might have suggested in game changes at Stamford Bridge as an example.

Probably a bit old now but something like what Joe Jordan did for Redknapp at Pompey and Spurs.

Mark McGhee perhaps?

Or maybe James Milner as Player Coach might be the answer?

That said 6th, with four perceived home points dropped, it could be a lot worse, certainly won’t be down amongst the dead men, but I’m worried we might not have the M23 Derby this time next year.

Think you’ll find Croftie’s in place already !

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Why's anybody giving the time of day to this dipstick who started a kneejerk HT thread on Sunday?