vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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I'm just picking up 72 pints of the stuff, so I hope it's not.
Ugh ! hope you keep it well !
I'm just picking up 72 pints of the stuff, so I hope it's not.
I did a sample testing recently at the Shepherd Neame brewery in Faversham (a good mate works there). In between the SN beers, he handed me a small glass of an unnamed beer - asked me what I thought of it.
I tasted it and said it was the best of the lot - and I could drink a lot of it if allowed. Bugger, he said, that's Harveys Best! (they were using it as a taste comparator against Whitstable Bay).
Hang Him!
On a serious note, I understand everyone has different tastes. But London Pride always tastes like watered-down Harveys to me, so I'm always a little surprised when people prefer it.
I also note that your favorites come from a wide variety of different styles. Whereas mine tend to me (more-or-less) bitters made from English hops.
As someone born in the North, much as Pride is like a watered down Harveys, Harveys is like a watered down Boddingtons (pre-Whitbread takeover) or Robinsons. Never been able to get used to "Southern Bitter", just doesn't taste right to me. I'll always chose a decent guest-beer over either of these.
When we did the original push for real ale it was supposed to be Harveys and Dark Star Hophead, a lighter and obviously very hoppy brew which IMO would be far more to the taste of the 'lager drinkers who might try an pint of real ale' among our support. Sadly, Dark Star really weren't up for it: already brewing to capacity - a capacity far below that of Harveys, solid local brewery who desperately needed a new outlet and went for it big time. Brilliant to have it, and great to win the argument ('football fans don't drink real ale...erm, I think they do!) but I only ever drink Harveys at the Amex, don't go near it elsewhere unless there is no alternative. Given the performances at the moment I think Dark Star Revelation would be a good idea. We'd all be so pissed we wouldn't notice
I hate this real ale vs craft beer debate, it just seems so pointless.
You're both on the same side. The good guys won, it's very rare to go into a pub now that doesn't have some form of real ale/ craft beer option.
I drink and love both, I don't see one or the other as being fundamnentally right or wrong. Some beers taste better kegged and some taste better casked.
It did not used to be that way. It used to be a rarity (certainly in south-west London) so I used to really enjoy it when available. Now ? Meh.
(however the Fullers Brewery Tour is worth going on)
Exactly the same thing happened to my favourite pint, Doom Bar, when Coors took over Sharp's Brewery. It is now much too widely available, and hence standards have slipped. Far too inconsistent.
you must look beyond the pale my friend
Probably my second favourite bitter.
A while back in my local, I got chatting with a local councillor when he began enthusing about the wonders of Harveys as he proudly supped on a pint of the aforementioned local brew. I casually commented that I knew it was verging on sacrilege in these parts, but I personally felt that London Pride was a much nicer pint, to which he responded “If you really think that, you’re a ****-wit”
Taken aback to have my intelligence equated with my ale preferences, I also thought that said councillor was, as (originally) a Londoner, trying just a little too hard to establish his Sussex credentials by proclaiming such fierce allegiance to this local tipple. Don’t get me wrong, there have been rare occasions I’ve had a very decent pint of Harveys but far too often, it doesn’t hit the mark at all and I aint that impressed. Seems it needs to be exceptionally fresh/well kept to be at its best. If I was going to get into real-ale anorak mode, it wouldn’t get near my Top 10 whereas the likes of Timothy Taylor, Proper Job, Seafarers, Adnams Ghost Ship and Dark Star American Pale Ale would be right up there...
So, what do you lot reckon... Harveys, a tad over-rated, or not??