Is Burke the stumbling block?

[Mancgull]

If you mean Burke spotted Ulloa, then no he didn't as that was Stephenson before him, if you mean was he part of the team to finally sign him, after us chasing him for 18 months while he got a Spanish passport yes. So the important part to getting Ulloa as in spotting a good player. then little credit can be given to Burke for this signing.

I wasn't aware of that....then my estimations of him do go down somewhat.

 

[portslade seagull]

Not sure but did he get Ince, March, Walton if so his eye for a youngster is very good

 

[drew]

Comical really! Apparently a few agents who have been around for sometime don't like dealing with Burke. Tough s**t. His job isn't to meet every demand an agent puts in front of him and, quite frankly, I'd be far more concerned if it was announced that agents enjoyed dealing with him as that would suggest to me he is a bit of a walkover as far as negotiations are concerned.

 

[Pickles]

the agents don't want to deal with him perhaps but at the end of the day they are representing their client. If for example we try and buy a player but their agent doesn't tell his player about the bid then he is surely breaching his contract with his client. You don't have to like people to do business with them.

Of course the agents will deal with him, it would be against their personal interests otherwise.

Perhaps I worded it badly, apologies.

Certain agents are trying to, how shall I say, trying to 'swerve' him because of his attitude.

Not The Albion's attitude, but his.

 

[Stat Brother]

Certain agents are trying to, how shall I say, trying to 'swerve' him because of his attitude.

Not The Albion's attitude, but his.

This is the point the neigh sayers on this thread seems to keep conveniently missing.

David Burke isn't a rogue agent a loose cannon.

He is Tony Bloom's (the Albion's) employee.
He works for Tony.
He has a job description to work to, just like everybody else.
He meets weekly with Tony.
He has done so for a couple of years.

If in that time the Albion are getting a 'bad' reputation, then Tony is fully aware of that.
Until such time as Burke or Tony leave the club, we can safely assume Tony is happy with Burke's work.

THE RUBBISH ON THIS THREAD SHOULD BE DIRECTED AT TONY, NOT BURKE.
He's the employer, he pays the wages, he calls the shots.

If Tony's club player recruitment policy has an 'attitude', that's because Tony want's it to have an 'attitude'.

I can't help guessing that 'attitude' has something to do with justifying every penny.
Would you rather work in that atmosphere or be dealing with brown envelopes of cash.

 

[Stat Brother]

Mo, I mentioned something similar to this recently on another thread and to be fair, was treated seriously about it.

You and I both know that David Burke IS a problem within The Albion, and I'm afraid it's not his position that's the problem ( although, saying that, it may well be to some. )

It really is him with his attitude.

There are 3 agents now that I know of that really don't don't want to deal with him.

Of course the agents will deal with him, it would be against their personal interests otherwise.

Perhaps I worded it badly, apologies.

Certain agents are trying to, how shall I say, trying to 'swerve' him because of his attitude.

Not The Albion's attitude, but his.

Thinking about this still further, it would seem your idea of blame or guilt rests on:-

3 unnamed people.
No direct quotes.
Absolutely no right to reply.

Wow, that's some leap.

You might even be right, but it's impossible to tell from such a biased standpoint.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Thinking about this still further, it would seem your idea of blame or guilt rests on:-

3 unnamed people.
No direct quotes.
Absolutely no right to reply.

Wow, that's some leap.

You might even be right, but it's impossible to tell from such a biased standpoint.

Indeed. And all that coming from a poster on an internet forum, hiding behind a second account.

 

[Hotchilidog]

If Burke is annoying agents then I heartily approve.

 

[Stat Brother]

Indeed. And all that coming from a poster on an internet forum, hiding behind a second account.

I wonder if goats walk over the roof of his house?

 

[Titanic]

This is the point the neigh sayers on this thread seems to keep conveniently missing.

David Burke isn't a rogue agent a loose cannon.

He is Tony Bloom's (the Albion's) employee.
He works for Tony.
He has a job description to work to, just like everybody else.
He meets weekly with Tony.
He has done so for a couple of years.

If in that time the Albion are getting a 'bad' reputation, then Tony is fully aware of that.
Until such time as Burke or Tony leave the club, we can safely assume Tony is happy with Burke's work.

THE RUBBISH ON THIS THREAD SHOULD BE DIRECTED AT TONY, NOT BURKE.
He's the employer, he pays the wages, he calls the shots.

If Tony's club player recruitment policy has an 'attitude', that's because Tony want's it to have an 'attitude'.

I can't help guessing that 'attitude' has something to do with justifying every penny.
Would you rather work in that atmosphere or be dealing with brown envelopes of cash.

Exactly - and just as I said 190 posts ago albeit rather more succinctly

 

[Titanic]

If Burke is annoying agents then I heartily approve.

 

[keaton]

If Burke is annoying agents then I heartily approve.

Problem is that won't get us far if we need to get promoted. I don't know about this season but last season Cardiff and Palace spent the most on agents and Bournemouth paid the most in League 1. Blackpool didn't pay any and they have hardly gone from strength and have financially dodgy board anyway.

And like Burke, does anyone have any evidence or examples of why agents are so bad?

 

[JCL - the new kid in town]

Indeed. And all that coming from a poster on an internet forum, hiding behind a second account.

So the info this poster has is so good they only post it from a second account? I've not yet grasped the point of a second account unless the first one is inactive

 

[JCL - the new kid in town]

Of course the agents will deal with him, it would be against their personal interests otherwise.

Perhaps I worded it badly, apologies.

Certain agents are trying to, how shall I say, trying to 'swerve' him because of his attitude.

Not The Albion's attitude, but his.

So how exactly are they "swerving" him if they have to deal with him anyway?

 

[Ernest]

Let's hope the new manager sacks him and get's his own man in

 

[keaton]

So how exactly are they "swerving" him if they have to deal with him anyway?

Because agents are unlikely to offer him a player first or unless they have to? They'd be more likely to try and do business again with a manager/Director of football they had a better relationship with

 

[Vegas Seagull]

Because agents are unlikely to offer him a player first or unless they have to? They'd be more likely to try and do business again with a manager/Director of football they had a better relationship with

So they'd take their player to see Rochdale first....? Pathetic, preposterous & ludicrous

Maybe these 'few' agents have players that are not very good and/or overprice their talent...the agents keep pestering & wasting our time. Must be some that do that?

Maybe we prefer dealing with ones that have good players? how strange would that be?

 

[JCL - the new kid in town]

Because agents are unlikely to offer him a player first or unless they have to? They'd be more likely to try and do business again with a manager/Director of football they had a better relationship with

But then surely they aren't working to get the best deal for their client?

 

[keaton]

So they'd take their player to see Rochdale first....? Pathetic, preposterous & ludicrous

Maybe these 'few' agents have players that are not very good and/or overprice their talent...the agents keep pestering & wasting our time. Must be some that do that?

Maybe we prefer dealing with ones that have good players? how strange would that be?

Maybe. I'm just explaining to the best of my knowledge how being on good terms with an agent would be useful, and IF Burke has issues with agents it's a bit more complicated than "Burke annoys agents, agents annoy me, I like Burke"

 

[Mo Gosfield]

I've learnt my lesson folks. I should have detailed everything I was told about DB but I kept my counsel as I thought it would stir up too much comment. I was wrong to leave it at one ' throwaway line' as it just left me open to a stream of abuse.
I just thought an outsiders view of DB ( someone who knows him and has dealt with him ) would be of interest but clearly not.
I am sure he is is doing an admirable job and I won't rock the boat anymore.