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[Brighton] Is Brighton & Hove as a city getting better, or getting worse?

Is Brighton and Hove getting better, or getting worse?

  • Better

    Votes: 48 30.2%
  • Worse

    Votes: 111 69.8%

  • Total voters
    159
  • Poll closed .












Paulie Gualtieri

Bada Bing
NSC Patron
May 8, 2018
10,609
Anston House has been demolished, and new apartments are being constructed. Here's a reminder of what was there:

That’s it, sadly predictable that it’s new apartments but I guess what else would it be based on location

Thanks for the link 👍🏻
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
Agree, and there's quite a lot going that'll be great for the city - Valley Gardens phase 3, Black Rock, and Kingsway to the Sea will be superb addition to the city, for a start.

Any sizeable city has less desirable parts. Brighton and Hove has a whole host of brilliant areas to explore, both city centre, residential (the varied and architecturally interesting residential areas around the outside of the city are fantastic to stroll around, especially since they all without exception include great pubs) and along the coastal strip. Amazing array of restaurants and pubs, always events and festivals going on, diverse population.

I get it's all down to opinions, its not perfect (no city is), but folk moaning about some aspects of the city always makes me chuckle.

During the bleaker months the city still has a lot to offer imo too imo!
I agree with a vast part of your post EXCEPT VG3 - nothing but a very expensive vanity project at a high price to the local taxpayer that will cause traffic chaos. It's attempting to solve a problem that isn't real.
 


Taybha

Whalewhine
Oct 8, 2008
27,662
Uwantsumorwat
The place went to pot when the blue and white 49 & 49a stopped running,the last straw for me was the demolition of the danger box in Queensway,nobody ever found me there whilst playing 44 save all.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,671
The Fatherland
Places such as these selling a lifestyle as opposed to a place to live


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Thanks for this. I do not have an issue with this per se. My main issue is that these new builds usually look cheap and shite. That curved glass fronted building on Grand Parade is an example. The artists impressions looked amazing....reality is a dirty cheap looking apartment block.

Brighton is becoming super expensive though, and I do not know the answer. An area becomes attractive and the prices increase. and people get priced out..this is just life unless the government intervene. Something good which comes out of this though, is those priced out are usually younger and move on and breath new life into other places. This has happended with Worthing for example. There are plenty of other places in the UK, and the world for that matter (Brooklyn, Liepzig), where this has also happened. I have conflicting views, part of me thinks move on and create some fun elsewhere, part thinks it's shit.
 




Cheeky Monkey

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
23,863
I think Brighton has been remarkably insulated from the general town centre decay you see when you travel much north of London
You've obviously never been to Palmer's Green, north London, now that is a ghetto shithole on a massive scale, even on a sunny day it looks like a depressed, run-down version of (insert Beirut, Mogadishu, Portslade etc. )

:wink:
 


Nobby Cybergoat

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2021
8,622
You've obviously never been to Palmer's Green, north London, now that is a ghetto shithole on a massive scale, even on a sunny day it looks like a depressed, run-down version of (insert Beirut, Mogadishu, Portslade etc. )

:wink:
Never been to and not even heard of it
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,308
I only visit once or twice a year now but every time I've brought people over they've loved it. Most want to come back again or could even see themselves living in Brighton.
I think most people take away fond memories of Brighton. Quite a number of times when I've been checking into hotels abroad, the receptionist has got quite animated when they've seen 'Brighton' on my registration form. Invariably they've done a language course or an exchange visit here. Certainly helps break the ice!
 




Coldeanseagull

Opinionated
Mar 13, 2013
8,341
Coldean
It's definitely become more gentrified and the proliferation of luxury apartments feels antithetical to what I like about the city. There was also a period where Aroe / Gary and other locals were producing an unreal amount of world class graffiti in prime spots and that era is sadly over.
It's called vandalism.

As you get older, your perspective changes. Now in my sixties, I avoid the town centre like the plague, it's full of kids(thirties and below) who listen to shit music and dress like they're going to go skip diving. They're loud, foul mouthed, drugged up and annoy me.
I understand why old people are always grumpy now:mad:
 




pocketseagull

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2014
1,360
How can this be vandalism? (of course I realise it's your subjective opinion!)
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Doc Lynam

I hate the Daily Mail
Jun 19, 2011
7,346
Brighton Station has a lot more colour these days.
 

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Hometownglory

Well-known member
Jan 12, 2014
646
To me it just feels neglected. I always find it sad seeing the dilapidated arches, rusty seafront railings, broken seafront shelters, the iconic seafront lights left in a state of disrepair. The graffiti tagging everywhere has gotten worse over the past 10 years. The city just feels so unloved, yet the price to live here is beyond extentionate. I still love it though, the city centre and seafront just needs some TLC. Recouping some of the unpaid debts from I360 could help with this...maybe!
 
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BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,193
It's called vandalism.

As you get older, your perspective changes. Now in my sixties, I avoid the town centre like the plague, it's full of kids(thirties and below) who listen to shit music and dress like they're going to go skip diving. They're loud, foul mouthed, drugged up and annoy me.
I understand why old people are always grumpy now:mad:
I'm 50, how long do I have before I turn into a miserable old bastard? 😂

For me

tagging = vandalism
Street art = art

And for the record this attitude hasn't really changed since its inception.
 




Not Andy Naylor

Well-known member
Dec 12, 2007
8,992
Seven Dials
The answer is that it's getting better in some ways and worse in others.

Worse: the vandalism, the tagging, the expense of housing, the influx of Londoners, the crumbling Arches, the empty shops, the ridiculous i360, the crime, the potholes, La Cappanina has closed, still bugger all happening at Black Rock, too many student properties, the Manhattanisation of Lewes Road.

Better: the North Laine, the explosion of decent places to eat and drink, especially at beach level along the seafront, Albion shirts everywhere, the sheer vibrancy of streets such as London Road and Lewes Road that were once drab and down-at-heel, the new hospital building, the Amex, Albion in the Premier League.

It could be better, but it's still one of the best places to live in the UK.
 




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