[Politics] Is a Photo ID requirement for Voting a Good Idea?

[nicko31]

Voter suppression of the young and the poor.

Straight out of the US Republican play book, these crypto fascists know what they’re doing

 

[Albion my Albion]

pressed too quickly and cant finish the sentences

That's what she said.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Have you ever tried getting somebody with dementia into a phone booth, align them within the camera limit, and them getting them to look at the screen and sit still long enough to get an acceptable photo.

I tried, but I couldn't do it.

So I can't renew her passport which is now out of date and her driving licence was revoked ages ago. None of those would be acceptable so what is another alternative option?

A bus pass.

There has literally been one conviction of voter fraud out of millions of votes.

As said before, an Oyster card is acceptable for pensioners but not for youngsters. Youngsters are more likely to vote for parties on the left.

 

[zefarelly]

As said before, an Oyster card is acceptable for pensioners but not for youngsters. Youngsters are more likely to vote for parties on the left.

Thats pretty obvious isn't it. My condiment supplier informs me 'when ze aussorities reject ze infidels' their votes will automatically go to the conservative party. 'Zis will maintain control of ze peasants and scum'

 

[Rookie]

Some form of identity is a good idea. There can't be very many people if any at all without any.

Why is ID a good idea to vote? Do we have a severe case of voter fraud?
People are out off voting as it is, should be less obstacles rather than more

 

[Coldeanseagull]

I'm surprised that anyone wouldn't want to move out of the middle ages and accept the necessity of being able to be identified....unless you have something to hide, of course, like being the spitting image of your passport photo

 

[Bozza]

Whilst not arguing for or against this, I'm not sure "there's very few cases of election fraud" is a valid reason for NOT doing it.

Just how would election fraud be detected currently?

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Whilst not arguing for or against this, I'm not sure "there's very few cases of election fraud" is a valid reason for NOT doing it.

Just how would election fraud be detected currently?

How about ..... I don’t know ..... make stuff work better. There’s lots of stuff broke that needs fixing.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Whilst not arguing for or against this, I'm not sure "there's very few cases of election fraud" is a valid reason for NOT doing it.

Just how would election fraud be detected currently?

A dead person voting? Electoral roll checked against death certificates.

 

[halbpro]

Surely we should be looking at schemes that increase voter turnout, rather than reducing it. It's also gonna be absolute chaos in May, and I feel for the poll workers

 

[Bozza]

A dead person voting? Electoral roll checked against death certificates.

My next door neighbour telling me he can't be bothered to vote, so I pop down to the polling station and vote again in whichever direction I choose.

I'm not saying electoral fraud is a problem at all - I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that it is very small scale. I'm just interested how anyone would have any definitive idea.

 

[zefarelly]

They wouldn't and its wide open for a simpleton, like a tory mp, to abuse for their benefit.

there's no way of detecting how many votes came out of the minibus from the old peoples home . . .

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

My next door neighbour telling me he can't be bothered to vote, so I pop down to the polling station and vote again in whichever direction I choose.

I'm not saying electoral fraud is a problem at all - I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that it is very small scale. I'm just interested how anyone would have any definitive idea.

Electoral fraud data

View electoral fraud data

www.electoralcommission.org.uk

In May 2021, elections took place across England, Wales and Scotland:

• Scottish Parliament
• Senedd Cymru
• Police and Crime Commissioners (England and Wales)
• Local councils and local mayors (England)
• Combined Authority Mayors (England)
• Mayor of London and London Assembly

Many of these polls had been postponed from 2020. There were also six UK parliamentary by-elections during 2021. ​

315 cases of alleged electoral fraud were investigated by the police during 2021. None of these cases led to a conviction. Police issued cautions in one case.

 

[halbpro]

Electoral fraud data

View electoral fraud data

www.electoralcommission.org.uk

This doesn't really go to the question of how it's detected though, only how much. Also over half of the cases are actually about issues in campaigning

 

[Bodian]

Will I be able to use it for away games?

 

[Bozza]

Electoral fraud data

View electoral fraud data

www.electoralcommission.org.uk

I'm sorry - are you trying to answer my question, because that doesn't. Maybe I'm not being clear. I can easily look up official statistics, but I have no way of knowing where between 0% and 100% of electoral frauds that happen are detected and recorded.

Official statistics show that I've never been caught raiding my son's treat tin for chocolate but, and please don't tell him, it happens quite a lot.

(Again - I'm absolutely NOT making a case for photographic ID being a requirement, I just don't think anyone can say "electoral fraud isn't much of a problem" with any confidence at all. They may well be absolutely correct, but there's no way of knowing, is there?)

 

[halbpro]

I'm sorry - are you trying to answer my question, because that doesn't. Maybe I'm not being clear. I can easily look up official statistics, but I have no way of knowing where between 0% and 100% of electoral frauds that happen are detected and recorded.

Official statistics show that I've never been caught raiding my son's treat tin for chocolate but, and please don't tell him, it happens quite a lot.

(Again - I'm absolutely NOT making a case for photographic ID being a requirement, I just don't think anyone can say "electoral fraud isn't much of a problem" with any confidence at all. They may well be absolutely correct, but there's no way of knowing, is there?)

You are making a strong case for needing photo ID to access your son's treat tin to be fair

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

This doesn't really go to the question of how it's detected though, only how much. Also over half of the cases are actually about issues in campaigning

From reading through the reports submitted on their page generally via reports from Polling station staff where they have suspected someone isn't who they say they are.

 

[Giraffe]

When I first voted in my late teens I was astonished how easy it was. It is an honour to vote and you really should have to show your ID. The opportunity for individuals to vote more than once is massive. I’m not saying it has ever swayed an election but how would we know?

You use ID for far less important things than voting it seems very odd that we don’t already have this.

Finally if you don’t ID are you really part of our society? Are you paying taxes? Are you? I think if you don’t have ID 9 times out 10 you don’t deserve to have the vote I am afraid.

 

[Bozza]

You are making a strong case for needing photo ID to access your son's treat tin to be fair

Why? There's not been a single recorded case of anyone in this house wrongfully accessing the treat tin.