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Ipswich's first goal







Exile

Objective but passionate
Aug 10, 2014
2,367
Seem to recall Brian Clough (I think) once saying he didn't like walls at free kicks as it can obscure the 'keepers vision, but primarily actually helps the taker in that it gives him something to try and curl the ball round. He reasoned that it was harder without a wall.

Never played in goal, did he?
 


Chinman3000

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
1,269
and it would also leave them with a clear run at goal.

Plan D
Offside trap, Derbyesque

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This was amazing - but Tuesday night they didn't need to run up, just not run back!
 


Sheebo

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2003
29,319
Watch almost every free kick in a similar area in almost any other game and exactly the same thing will happen. Defenders always move back as the ball is delivered. If they don't and an attacker beats the offside, they are clear through on their own.

I was about to ask the OP if he was new to football :lol:

And as [MENTION=28490]Machiavelli[/MENTION] has already pointed out, the one recent (German) example of not doing this was Huddersfield - who caught us ou by not dropping back and holding their line several times. (something I'd assume they do most weeks which our staff REALLY should have picked up on - and our players after the first time come to think of it!).

A better thread would be any pics / video of Lawrence 'winning' the free-kick imo... Anyone?
 






Postman Pat

Well-known member
Jul 24, 2007
6,973
Coldean
No sarcasm just think a still of that would show better who was at fault, or was it just a perfectly placed free kick

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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I was about to ask the OP if he was new to football :lol:

And as [MENTION=28490]Machiavelli[/MENTION] has already pointed out, the one recent (German) example of not doing this was Huddersfield - who caught us ou by not dropping back and holding their line several times. (something I'd assume they do most weeks which our staff REALLY should have picked up on - and our players after the first time come to think of it!).

A better thread would be any pics / video of Lawrence 'winning' the free-kick imo... Anyone?

It's on the multi cam highlights on Player.
 


Exile

Objective but passionate
Aug 10, 2014
2,367
So, the guy who 'won' and took that excellent free kick, Tom Lawrence, and the guy who bravely scored it, Luke Chambers will both MISS their game v dirty Leeds. The tw4ts.

Lawrence is suspended and Chambers cracked a rib in the collision with Stockdale.
 


el punal

Well-known member
Aug 29, 2012
12,547
The dull part of the south coast
With the right delivery those are VERY hard to defend. It was a fantastic delivery. I would have liked them all to step up though.

Quite right. Sometimes you just have to acknowledge, despite the defence being slightly at fault, that it was a superb cross in and a very brave header to score. How many times have we done that to the opposition? Quite a few is the answer.
 




Chinman3000

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
1,269
I was about to ask the OP if he was new to football :lol:

Its basics of defending to hold your line. Think you've both show yourselves up to not have a clue here.

EDIT - In this instance
 


Sheebo

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2003
29,319
Its basics of defending to hold your line. Think you've both show yourselves up to not have a clue here.

EDIT - In this instance

:lol: You don't need to talk to me about holding defensive lines - I've been doing it since the age of 10 :thumbsup:

You/myself do raise a good point here though. At grassroots level it's the common thing to do holding the line even on a free kick. In the pro game, pretty much every team drops 3-5 yards before the ball is kicked.
 


Chinman3000

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
1,269
:lol: You don't need to talk to me about holding defensive lines - I've been doing it since the age of 10 :thumbsup:

You/myself do raise a good point here though. At grassroots level it's the common thing to do holding the line even on a free kick. In the pro game, pretty much every team drops 3-5 yards before the ball is kicked.

Equally, I've been breaching said lines and scoring goals from younger than that even, and I cant remember a time any defence has been that kind to me!
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Quite right. Sometimes you just have to acknowledge, despite the defence being slightly at fault, that it was a superb cross in and a very brave header to score. How many times have we done that to the opposition? Quite a few is the answer.

Bob Booker compares that free kick to one of Knocky's, in his commentary, on Player. He also said it wasn't a free kick.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,331
Our defence are pretty fantastic at throwing their bodies in the way of the ball in a death-or-glory stylee. But in many other aspects they are shockingly ordinary e.g if a forward runs directly at them or a winger gets to the touchline and does that cut the ball back thing.
 










Megazone

On his last warning
Jan 28, 2015
8,679
Northern Hemisphere.
Football is becoming way too analytical. You could take a photo of any incident and analyse where things went wrong.

There's a massive element of luck involved in Football. If only Skysports understood this, the sky pundits would age only half as quick.
 


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