[Albion] Interesting. chat in the bar

[Stato]

The 'negative Hughton' argument pedaled by Norwich fans is nonsense. Chris's approach can seem over cautious, but it is not negative, it is realistic and pragmatic. He wants his teams to play football, but firstly he wants them to work hard. He knows that this is essential if we are to overcome odds that are usually against us. This was his post match comment on the BBC website yesterday:

"I am delighted, we had to really earn it against a very good side. They threatened a lot and we had to defend really well. It was hard-earned.

"We are not playing at our best, nowhere near. We have players who are not at their level, we are not good on the ball but we are defending really well."

He knows we are not at our best and wants to improve ball retention and creativity, but he also knows that, if this is not clicking you better defend well. Ferguson was lauded for years for United winning games in which they hadn't played well.

We have just won three games in a row in the top division for the first time in 37 years and yet the team that has achieved this has room for improvement and we have a manager who is completely aware of this and some idiots are chanting criticism at him.

I imagine that if some of our fans were lost and stranded in the wilds of Scotland and Hughton were to drive up, find them and give them a lift back to Brighton they would moan that it was in a Volvo not a Jag.

 

[lawros left foot]

It is strange when a football fan has an intense dislike for another seemingly random club without justified reason or explanation. Of course there are the conventional reasons for fans despising other clubs - historical rivalry (us and Palace, Arsenal and Spurs, etc.), religious grounds (sort of) with Rangers and Celtic. Or, for more personal reasons, where someone has had a horrible experience at the hands of the opposition club/fans which have had a lasting impact.

But to be unable to account for their animosity is just plain weird.

P.S. Did he buy the drinks?

He’s a Uni friend of my daughter and her boyfriend. A season ticket holder at CarrowRoad, he stayed at our house that weekend, and after telling me all Saturday morning, how they were going to batter us, he was very quiet on Sunday, and left quite early, he didn’t even stay for lunch.

Yes, he did get the beers in, but, he wouldn’t watch the highlights.

 

[Dolph Ins]

Is scoring goals an indication of good football because we have scored more than 8 other teams in this division.

 

[Weststander]

Is scoring goals an indication of good football because we have scored more than 8 other teams in this division.

But Hudd and Fulham play such wonderful football.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Really? Playing fantastic football now.


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Four defeats already this season, fourth in the Championship, lower than we ever were in the promotion season IIRC. Goal difference +3. When he left they were safe in the Premier League.

Everyone expected them to bounce straight back and be a real problem side in the season we went up but at times they were a shambles due to a really poor choice of manager. I'd prefer to be us than them a million times over. IF they go up this season - and both Boro and Sheffield Utd look bettter - they'll be odds on to go straight back down,

"Fantastic football"? It's not a ballet or a basketball match. Results are all that count. Look at Poyet - his "fantastic football" never achieved what Hughton did.

 

[Acker79]

When he left they were safe in the Premier League.

Yeah, but they were schedule to play 4 top six sides in their final games. How could any team possibly expect to pick up points with such a run in?!

 

[NooBHA]

I know a Norwich fan who absolutely hates us, and Chris. I think it goes a bit beyond jealousy, he dislikes us more than he dislikes Ipswich.
Strange really, when I asked him why, he would just say, shit club, shit manager. It was funny having a pint with him in the away end after we tonked them 5-0 though.

Before directing his hatred at Chris and Brighton he should look inwardly at his own club

They have a Boardroom with the average age of Dignitas Clients.

Delia Smith bought into the club for a fraction of what it was worth. Every penny she put in she has taken out tenfold in salary. The £1m she loaned the club when it was skint, she took back 2 or 3 years ago. She opened her big restaurant in the confines of Carrow Road and I bet she pays minimal rents on it and makes a fortune from it.

She and her husband used their foray into the PL to milk the club. It certainly didn't go into investment in the club. They were the lowest spenders every year they were in the League.

And as for their ''Iconic Paul Lambert'' - He walked out on them. The Bucks that Villa threw at him he was down so fast to pick it up it hit him on the back of the head. And look at it now. He has just taken a job of their nearest rivals at Ipswich.

So if the Norwich fans want people to hate, they have plenty of other options than Chris Hughton and Brighton

 

[lawros left foot]

Before directing his hatred at Chris and Brighton he should look inwardly at his own club

They have a Boardroom with the average age of Dignitas Clients.

Delia Smith bought into the club for a fraction of what it was worth. Every penny she put in she has taken out tenfold in salary. The £1m she loaned the club when it was skint, she took back 2 or 3 years ago. She opened her big restaurant in the confines of Carrow Road and I bet she pays minimal rents on it and makes a fortune from it.

She and her husband used their foray into the PL to milk the club. It certainly didn't go into investment in the club. They were the lowest spenders every year they were in the League.

And as for their ''Iconic Paul Lambert'' - He walked out on them. The Bucks that Villa threw at him he was down so fast to pick it up it hit him on the back of the head. And look at it now. He has just taken a job of their nearest rivals at Ipswich.

So if the Norwich fans want people to hate, they have plenty of other options than Chris Hughton and Brighton

Oh, I totally agree, I can’t understand his dislike, and Delia appears to have been underinvesting for years.

 

[Weststander]

Oh, I totally agree, I can’t understand his dislike, and Delia appears to have been underinvesting for years.

Goes to show that you can't have your cake and eat it.

 

[Mayonaise]

I didn't think we were necessarily negative yesterday but instead disjointed due to a lack of quality.

Our poor ball retention and slow tempo meant that we struggled to get a foothold in the game. This was not negative tactics by CH.

Chris himself, acknowledged that we are not at our best ATM (he stopped short of saying the new guys are still learning the league) but understands when we are struggling, we will need to defend and fortunately, unlike Fulham and Huddersfield, we do it rather well.

 

[Dirk Lehmann's Python]

Amazing negativity from some deluded idiots in our fanbase who think entertaining football is more important than results. Pricks.

They have obviously also failed to notice we are missing both of our attacking central midfield players which may well be the reason we've not been as offensive in the last few weeks...

 

[Acker79]

Amazing negativity from some deluded idiots in our fanbase who think entertaining football is more important than results. Pricks.

Wow.I get people watch football for different reasons, for some it is about winning. If that's what you like, hope you enjoy these wins, as a smaller team that will be in the relegation fight for the foreseeable future, you're not likely to see a lot of them. But there are huge swathes of fans for whom entertainment is a major aspect of why they like football. In a modern age when the price of football, not just the ticket but also everything around it, wanting to be entertained by a sporting event, especially one you've spent a lot of money on, is not the delusion of idiots.

 

[Bozza]

I didn't think we were necessarily negative yesterday but instead disjointed due to a lack of quality.

Our poor ball retention and slow tempo meant that we struggled to get a foothold in the game. This was not negative tactics by CH.

Chris himself, acknowledged that we are not at our best ATM (he stopped short of saying the new guys are still learning the league) but understands when we are struggling, we will need to defend and fortunately, unlike Fulham and Huddersfield, we do it rather well.

All of the above, plus we were against a very decent side accomplished at moving the ball about quickly, to pull their opponent out of shape.

I felt we missed Knockaert playing in front of Bruno, as much for his workrate assisting when we're being pressed, as much as anything else.

 

[spence]

Amazing negativity from some deluded idiots in our fanbase who think entertaining football is more important than results. Pricks.

They have obviously also failed to notice we are missing both of our attacking central midfield players which may well be the reason we've not been as offensive in the last few weeks...

This.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Can’t deny it wasn’t the most entertaining game I’ve ever watched but it’s a result driven business and like it or not it’s working for us


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Were we negative when we beat Man Utd? No It's obvious from his comments that CH knows we are not playing as well as we can. He will be pleased with the results - three wins in a row - but not pleased with how we played except for the way we defended. He's said as much.

 

[Leighgull]

I know a Norwich fan who absolutely hates us, and Chris. I think it goes a bit beyond jealousy, he dislikes us more than he dislikes Ipswich.
Strange really, when I asked him why, he would just say, shit club, shit manager. It was funny having a pint with him in the away end after we tonked them 5-0 though.

My dislike of Norwich goes back to when they were sniffing around our squad rather than developing their own youngsters.

Now I just think they’re a dull provincial team going nowhere.

 

[Weststander]

Amazing negativity from some deluded idiots in our fanbase who think entertaining football is more important than results. Pricks.

They have obviously also failed to notice we are missing both of our attacking central midfield players which may well be the reason we've not been as offensive in the last few weeks...

On a happy weekend for the Albion, with form of WWW, some gloomy fans digging for negatives. Bizarre.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

The 'negative Hughton' argument pedaled by Norwich fans is nonsense. Chris's approach can seem over cautious, but it is not negative, it is realistic and pragmatic. He wants his teams to play football, but firstly he wants them to work hard. He knows that this is essential if we are to overcome odds that are usually against us. This was his post match comment on the BBC website yesterday:

"I am delighted, we had to really earn it against a very good side. They threatened a lot and we had to defend really well. It was hard-earned.

"We are not playing at our best, nowhere near. We have players who are not at their level, we are not good on the ball but we are defending really well."

He knows we are not at our best and wants to improve ball retention and creativity, but he also knows that, if this is not clicking you better defend well. Ferguson was lauded for years for United winning games in which they hadn't played well.

We have just won three games in a row in the top division for the first time in 37 years and yet the team that has achieved this has room for improvement and we have a manager who is completely aware of this and some idiots are chanting criticism at him.

I imagine that if some of our fans were lost and stranded in the wilds of Scotland and Hughton were to drive up, find them and give them a lift back to Brighton they would moan that it was in a Volvo not a Jag.

Totally agree, and Liverpool under Bill Shankly and others were well capable of winning when playing badly. I'm not comparing us to Liverpool in the 1960s and '70s, but they could play much better football as well, and so can we.

 

[Weststander]

Totally agree, and Liverpool under Bill Shankly and others were well capable of winning when playing badly. I'm not comparing us to Liverpool in the 1960s and '70s, but they could play much better football as well, and so can we.

Some of Fergie’s teams were outplayed in games, Schmeichal making world class ssves, then they nicked 1-0 wins.

 

[MattBackHome]

I like Norwich and they are playing fit as **** football at the moment (see last week's Rhodes goal for a sexy example). They were very boring under Hughton.

It's A LOT easier to play that way in the champo.

Bizarre thing to be whinging about IMO.



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