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India v England. Third day.



















Titanic

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Yuvraj Singh drops Udal in the last over before the close.

That's 7 in the match - the old adage rings true again!
 
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Titanic

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Udal survives a torrid last over from Sreesanth.

England close on effectively 152-2 with two days to go.

Shah, Collingwood, Pietersen and Flintoff could set up a winning total tomorrow.

Come on England :clap2:
 
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CHAPPERS

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Bell should be in this side. He's young a technically able and is very good in the field. His test career (taking the Bangladesh tests out of the picture) has started with an Ashes series and two tours on the sub continent. He has struggled for form but so would anybody making their debuts in those circumstances. Dropping him now would probably destroy his confidence. England need a settled side going into the summer and the build up to the next Ashes series if we to are have any chance, considering how well the Aussies look to be shaping up.
 




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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Bell should be in this side. ... England need a settled side going into the summer and the build up to the next Ashes series if we to are have any chance, considering how well the Aussies look to be shaping up.

Perhaps in this side... but not in a full strength England side preparing to face the Convicts in the winter.
 








Grendel

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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
His test career (taking the Bangladesh tests out of the picture) has started with an Ashes series and two tours on the sub continent. He has struggled for form but so would anybody making their debuts in those circumstances.

His debut was against West Indies in 2004, but that's beside the point. I don't think he has struggled for form. He's shown that he can score runs against Pakistan, West Indies and Bangladesh. The fact is that against the best teams in the world, he just isn't good enough.
 


larus

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His debut was against West Indies in 2004, but that's beside the point. I don't think he has struggled for form. He's shown that he can score runs against Pakistan, West Indies and Bangladesh. The fact is that against the best teams in the world, he just isn't good enough.

OK, he had a bad series against the Aussies, but I think he was the top scorer against Pakistan. So by your logic, we'll have to go for a complete new batting line-up. If he's not good enough, but was top scorer, what happened to the rest of the batsmen.

Let's kick out that Strauss geyser. Only made one decent score in 6 tests. F***ing crap.

IMO, he will prove to be a very accomplished test player for many years. He could easily fill the role that Thorpe used to carry out, not a fast, agressive player, but a real 'sticker'. OK, he makes mistakes, but he is still learning.
 


Pavilionaire said:

. The Indian pundit in the Sky commentary box pissed me off with his biased view about how the bails weren't flying in the air until the bat was over the line - of course they weren't but they don't have to be.

A simple grasp of physics would tell you the force of the ball impacting on the stump would dislodge the bail in a millisecond, and it only has to lose contact with the stump to be classed as dislodged.


Don't blame Sky for this. they are being forced into taking the transmission that they have bought off Nimbus who owned the rights to TV indian cricket.
 


ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Bell should be in this side. .

But not opening the innings ffs.

We should have opened with strauss and prior (experienced opener who can kee wicket), dropped Jones (probably would have done it himself anyway) and palayed Bell again so that he could fail again in the middle order,
 




Grendel

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larus said:
OK, he had a bad series against the Aussies, but I think he was the top scorer against Pakistan. So by your logic, we'll have to go for a complete new batting line-up. If he's not good enough, but was top scorer, what happened to the rest of the batsmen.

Not at all. The rest of our batting order has proven that they can compete against the best in the world, and the majority of them have nothing to prove. Bell has proven that he can't hack it against the best.
 


n1 gull

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Grendel said:
Not at all. The rest of our batting order has proven that they can compete against the best in the world, and the majority of them have nothing to prove. Bell has proven that he can't hack it against the best.

I agree, he never looks the part either.
When Shah walked out to the wicket in his first test he looked more assured than Ding Dong.

I think Shah should now take Ding Dong's place in the middle order, with KP, Freddy and Collingwood.

Cook and Straus to open until Trescothick is back, then Cook can drop to 12th man.
 
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