[Cricket] India v England- Fourth Test Match- Ahmedabad- 04-08.03.2021

[dazzer6666]

Too many one day specialists in this test team, mentally weak without the required patience for red ball. Selectors should be asked questions but nothing will happen as it’s a cosy boys club closed shop. Fecking Bairstow should be nowhere near a 5 dayer in India let alone at number 3, your honour I rest my case.


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We’ll get thumped in the one dayers as well.......

 

[GREASED WEASEL]

England are pants

 

[Ethelwulf]

Bess out 111-8

 

[doogie004]

Glad to see the NSC crickarati have stopped whinging about cheating foreigners, bad pitches and biased commentators and finally had to admit that (in these conditions at least) India are just far far better than England.

Better cricketers, better athletes and (irrelevant but true nonetheless) better looking.

The positive way to look at it is that based on Mills' theory of utilitarianism this is a good outcome.
Hope that helps ease the pain.

Any test that finishes in under two days has got to have a suspect pitch .
Good enough players afraid not .
Let’s make a pitch over here that offers nothing for spin but swings and bounces all over the place then see how good they are and watch them moan


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[The Wizard]

What excuse can we come up with this time?

Axar isn’t human, he is a high specification, highly realistic human replica made in spite of England, due to our well know problem with left arm spinners who bowl from a fruit picker angle, and thus we should be awarded the series with a no contest.

 

[doogie004]

Thank god that shite is over


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[golddene]

Oh dear

 

[Prettyboyshaw]

Tough in India, Pitches shit blah blah blah...no excuse for the last 3 test batting performances, utterly pathetic.

 

[Pevenseagull]

This series has elicited a Proustian rush of memories of England cricket in the early 90s.

Normally I love a bit of nostalgia, but this has been utter gash.

 

[goldstone]

What a frigging embarrassment.

 

[Pavilionaire]

England are very good at keeping players fresh and well-rested. Unfortunely, this meaning squad players getting excessive game time and the wrong bowlers bowling on the wrong pitches.

The coaches, captain and players are not ruthless or vocal enough. Throw a Pietersen and a Swann into that side and they'd be competitive, but that is the sort of character we are missing.

 

[Jeremiah]

I had predicted the test would last 4 days , However, in my defence , I had allowed for a day being lost to rain

Going to be very interesting to see how the Indians cope with the Test series here this summer , they will be favourites but we have an excellent home record.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

England are very good at keeping players fresh and well-rested. Unfortunely, this meaning squad players getting excessive game time and the wrong bowlers bowling on the wrong pitches.

The coaches, captain and players are not ruthless or vocal enough. Throw a Pietersen and a Swann into that side and they'd be competitive, but that is the sort of character we are missing.

Sounds dangerously close to the popular view in Australia that a team has to be full of berks flashing their twattery at everybody in the loudest and most egregious way possible in order to be competitive.

The batsman can't play high quality spin. That's been a problem as long as I've been watching the game. A team with Pietersen and Swann in it went to the UAE and got whitewashed.

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

Sounds dangerously close to the popular view in Australia that a team has to be full of berks flashing their twattery at everybody in the loudest and most egregious way possible in order to be competitive.

The batsman can't play high quality spin. That's been a problem as long as I've been watching the game. A team with Pietersen and Swann in it went to the UAE and got whitewashed.

Agreed.

I also think we’re seeing the effect of playing too much limited overs cricket. We’re so fragile, these collapses happen all the time. No one has the technique or mentality to tough out these conditions

 

[vegster]

England are very good at keeping players fresh and well-rested. Unfortunely, this meaning squad players getting excessive game time and the wrong bowlers bowling on the wrong pitches.

The coaches, captain and players are not ruthless or vocal enough. Throw a Pietersen and a Swann into that side and they'd be competitive, but that is the sort of character we are missing.

If you had seen the Kevin Pietersen documentary you would not be so sure, he was quite often battling his own demons, as for Swann, he quit mid tour when the Aussies went after him.

 

[Guinness Boy]

England are very good at keeping players fresh and well-rested. Unfortunely, this meaning squad players getting excessive game time and the wrong bowlers bowling on the wrong pitches.

The coaches, captain and players are not ruthless or vocal enough. Throw a Pietersen and a Swann into that side and they'd be competitive, but that is the sort of character we are missing.

Simon Hughes got it correct on C4. We kept picking a team that would have been better suited to the match before.

 

[Gwylan]

Simon Hughes got it correct on C4. We kept picking a team that would have been better suited to the match before.

Yep, it reminds me of that Two Ronnies Mastermind sketch

Agreed.

I also think we’re seeing the effect of playing too much limited overs cricket. We’re so fragile, these collapses happen all the time. No one has the technique or mentality to tough out these conditions

I disagree on that. These Indians play a hell of a lot of LI cricket and all the IPL games. You saw it with Pant's innings, that reverse switch hit off Anderson was from a player brought up on T20.

The real issue is that we can't play spin. And we can't play spin because every time a county produces a turning pitch, it gets fined by the ECB. We have to get out of that mindset and stop producing wickets for up and down seamers.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

Simon Hughes got it correct on C4. We kept picking a team that would have been better suited to the match before.

I realise they can hardly just sit there for 2 hours saying "well India are better in every respect in these conditions", but to blame England's team selection is to miss the point.

The only selection that might have made a difference is if Anderson had been picked for the 2nd test, he might have got Sharma out early and the game might have turned out differently. The way the last 2 matches went doesn't suggest this was likely.

Apart from that, it doesn't matter who you pick if you're consistently getting bowled out for less than 200. Bairstow did well enough in Sri Lanka but did terribly when he came back, but then Root's form ran out after the first game so it's not obvious that he would have made a difference if they'd kept him in the team.

Buttler might have done better than Pope, (he could hardly have done worse actually), but his record in tests or tests in Asia isn't that of somebody you want to be pinning your hopes on.

 

[The Wizard]

We can’t play spin, if you can’t play spin in India you won’t win, that simple.

The only reason we won the first test was Axar didn’t play and the pitch didn’t spin for the first few days.

The problems against spin in India will never go away, it’s a product of the environment, I don’t think limited overs cricket has anything to do with it myself, there is a reason India’s home record is as astonishingly good as it is, it’s bloody difficult conditions and they have a ridiculous selection of talent to choose from.

 

[Pavilionaire]

If you had seen the Kevin Pietersen documentary you would not be so sure, he was quite often battling his own demons, as for Swann, he quit mid tour when the Aussies went after him.

Also both key players in the side when we were No. 1 in the world ten years ago and both part of the team that won the series 2-1 in India in 2012-13.

For me- right now - England are lacking a bit of the dog about them.