in 90 minutes have a 50% chance of being out of a job

[Easy 10]

Its a chance to get rid of staff who are not good workers/timekeepers/performers/ don't like company rules, no promotion prospects...etc

When it comes to simply cutting numbers someone is always going to be better than the next guy, NO ONE is safe...

I am just questioning why the said guy was made redundant twice in a year.

It maybe bad luck on 2 occasions but I doubt it.

OK dickhead, lets put you in the picture then.
Every department in the company had to shed numbers, and in our team, 1 out of 4 had to go. He was no better or worse than any of us, he'd had 1 days sickness in 3 years, he was punctual, cracked on with his work and got the job done, as did we all, and was highly regarded for the quality of his work and his reliablity. The decision was ambiguous, it could just as easily have been me or one of my other colleagues, and I've since spoken to the manager who had to make the decision along with HR, and he was gutted for him. It had to be someone though, and unfortunately for him, he dipped out. He'd been here less time than us which was probably the ONLY factor which could have counted against him.

So he managed to get a 3 month contract with another company with a view to being taken on permanently. After the 3 months was up, he'd done well so they decided to keep him on permanently and gave him a contract accordingly. Then in the summer that company was bought out by another one, the new parent company decided to downsize and restructure the business, and the office this guy worked in was duley closed. Last month, he was made redundent along with about 15 other people, and is now looking for work again.

There is such a thing as plain old-fashioned BAD LUCK. That guy is a good worker, a hard worker, and a good mate of mine, so have a little think before yuo start chucking round assumptions about circumstances you know f*** all about eh.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Easy! From the triumph of the Angels re-working to this! Switch off your PC and walk away.

 

[maffew]

manilaseagull you are looking very silly here, and shouldn't your username have a capital M

 

[Gully]

Sometimes it occurs to you that the country is better off without certain people living in it, this thread adds credence to that argument.

 

[Simster]

Moving away from the binfest, I think we all suspect the worst don't we?

 

[Easy 10]

Easy! From the triumph of the Angels re-working to this! Switch off your PC and walk away.

Sorry ?
If some twat decides that a good friend of mine is apparently 'expendable deadwood 'because he's been unfortunate enough to be made redundent a couple of times in this last year, I'm just filling in a few gaps to put the other side of the story over. Its not quite as cut and dried or as simple as Swindons ignorant, sweeping generalisations make out.

 

[Knotty]

I think its bedtime in Manila now!

 

[maffew]

Oh and Normal Rob, hope you kept your job and if so the other guy gets something quick for his family. Can you PM me what it is you do?

 

[bristolseagull]

Its a chance to get rid of staff who are not good workers/timekeepers/performers/ don't like company rules, no promotion prospects...etc

When it comes to simply cutting numbers someone is always going to be better than the next guy, NO ONE is safe...

I am just questioning why the said guy was made redundant twice in a year.

It maybe bad luck on 2 occasions but I doubt it.

you really are a dickhead.

 

[The Spanish]

I think its bedtime in Manila now!

I do business with Manila every day of my life and they don't clock off yet. Just been on the phone to them, the westerners have gone but they are still grafting.

if they did redundancies out there on the hours people put in, then the westerners would be f***ed.

 

[Knotty]

I do business with Manila every day of my life and they don't clock off yet. Just been on the phone to them, the westerners have gone but they are still grafting.

if they did redundancies out there on the hours people put in, then the westerners would be f***ed.

Would that include manilaseagull?

 

[CHAPPERS]

Well I'm a glass half full kinda guy today and I think he's gonna be just FINE, whatever happens. One door closes, another opens, and all that shit innit.

 

[Normal Rob]

erm - hello.

Firstly thanks for thre kind comments made by the majority. In true NSC style i am proud that this thread has degenerated into another binfest.

Anyhow - I need to clarify a couple of points regarding my position and how i find myself at risk. My role, and my bosses, within the company has been TUPE transferred (yesterday) across to another firm, who, in simplified terms, we were account handlers for. It is our new employer who is cutting us back to one role. We both have the respect of our previous company, its management and employees (we still sit in the same office as before). In fact they too are angry at what is happening. It is a truly shit situation - there is no 'dead wood' being discarded here. Only good people.

Yesterday turned out to be a day of procrastination and delay. I was not told if i would have a job going forward or not but that it'll be another week or so before i know. That, possibly, is a worse situation to be in than being out the door.

Rob.

 

[Knotty]

erm - hello.

Firstly thanks for thre kind comments made by the majority. In true NSC style i am proud that this thread has degenerated into another binfest.

Anyhow - I need to clarify a couple of points regarding my position and how i find myself at risk. My role, and my bosses, within the company has been TUPE transferred (yesterday) across to another firm, who, in simplified terms, we were account handlers for. It is our new employer who is cutting us back to one role. We both have the respect of our previous company, its management and employees (we still sit in the same office as before). In fact they too are angry at what is happening. It is a truly shit situation - there is no 'dead wood' being discarded here. Only good people.

Yesterday turned out to be a day of procrastination and delay. I was not told if i would have a job going forward or not but that it'll be another week or so before i know. That, possibly, is a worse situation to be in than being out the door.

Rob.

We're all, with one exception, with you mate. Good luck!

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Best of luck Rob - I know a little of how you feel.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

TUPE is a convenient method in reducing headcount as the business taking over had probably factored this into account before making a final decision.

 

[User removed 4]

erm - hello.

Firstly thanks for thre kind comments made by the majority. In true NSC style i am proud that this thread has degenerated into another binfest.

Anyhow - I need to clarify a couple of points regarding my position and how i find myself at risk. My role, and my bosses, within the company has been TUPE transferred (yesterday) across to another firm, who, in simplified terms, we were account handlers for. It is our new employer who is cutting us back to one role. We both have the respect of our previous company, its management and employees (we still sit in the same office as before). In fact they too are angry at what is happening. It is a truly shit situation - there is no 'dead wood' being discarded here. Only good people.

Yesterday turned out to be a day of procrastination and delay. I was not told if i would have a job going forward or not but that it'll be another week or so before i know. That, possibly, is a worse situation to be in than being out the door.

Rob.

Thats terrible mate, keeping you in suspense is well out of order, genuinely hope things work out ok for you.

 

[Insel affe]

Fingers crossed for ya Rob

 

[Gwylan]

erm - hello.

Firstly thanks for thre kind comments made by the majority. In true NSC style i am proud that this thread has degenerated into another binfest.

Anyhow - I need to clarify a couple of points regarding my position and how i find myself at risk. My role, and my bosses, within the company has been TUPE transferred (yesterday) across to another firm, who, in simplified terms, we were account handlers for. It is our new employer who is cutting us back to one role. We both have the respect of our previous company, its management and employees (we still sit in the same office as before). In fact they too are angry at what is happening. It is a truly shit situation - there is no 'dead wood' being discarded here. Only good people.

Yesterday turned out to be a day of procrastination and delay. I was not told if i would have a job going forward or not but that it'll be another week or so before i know. That, possibly, is a worse situation to be in than being out the door.

Rob.

Rob

I've been there and know what it's like

Good luck to you (and your boss) and hope it works out well for you

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

To be fair to manilaseagull you can see how 30 years in the RAF would give you such insight into the cut and thrust of the business world.

Good luck with the decisions Rob.