[Politics] Immigration detention centres

[The Clamp]

I do wonder why so many people want to come here. The U.K. is a hostile shit hole with a racist government that treats it’s workers like serfs and pays them poverty wages.

They sling them into decrepit detention centres and threaten to illegally transport them to Rwanda before stirring up hatred for them and blaming them for all of our self inflicted f*** ups.

It really must be life or death for them because nobody would come here if they had a choice. Being poor in the U.K. under a Tory government is not only incredibly hard, it’s practically a crime.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I do wonder why so many people want to come here. The U.K. is a hostile shit hole with a racist government that treats it’s workers like serfs and pays them poverty wages.

They sling them into decrepit detention centres and threaten to illegally transport them to Rwanda before stirring up hatred for them and blaming them for all of our self inflicted f*** ups.

It really must be life or death for them because nobody would come here if they had a choice. Being poor in the U.K. under a Tory government is not only incredibly hard, it’s practically a crime.

Rightly or wrongly, UK is still The Promised Land for economic migrants who can only DREAM of earning UK minimum national wage and are more than happy to put in the hard graft - unlike a dispiriting number of our homegrown stunted chavs

 

[nicko31]

I do wonder why so many people want to come here. The U.K. is a hostile shit hole with a racist government that treats it’s workers like serfs and pays them poverty wages.

They sling them into decrepit detention centres and threaten to illegally transport them to Rwanda before stirring up hatred for them and blaming them for all of our self inflicted f*** ups.

It really must be life or death for them because nobody would come here if they had a choice. Being poor in the U.K. under a Tory government is not only incredibly hard, it’s practically a crime.

Amazed no video footage has emerged of what things are like inside these detention centres, rumours of scabies and diphtheria and even a case of MRSA. Truly shocking this is happening inside our borders

 

[The Clamp]

Amazed no video footage has emerged of what things are like inside these detention centres, rumours of scabies and diphtheria and even a case of MRSA. Truly shocking this is happening inside our borders

I imagine authorities are super strict on leaks.

The sad thing is that even if damning footage did appear, there’d be nasty idiots like goldstone who would think they deserve it.

The Tory’s know what they are doing. This will get them support. Even though it’s their Brexit that has lead to this mess.

 

[The Clamp]

We'd have a lot more of them (and much appreciated and very welcome too) if it hadn't been for Project Fear telling them they'd all be toast after Brexit.

Home Office is putting 2.6m EU citizens at risk of removal, court hears

Implementation of Brexit withdrawal agreement threatens rights of those with ‘pre-settled status’, watchdog argues

www.theguardian.com

 

[nicko31]

I imagine authorities are super strict on leaks.

The sad thing is that even if damning footage did appear, there’d be nasty idiots like goldstone who would think they deserve it.

The Tory’s know what they are doing. This will get them support. Even though it’s their Brexit that has lead to this mess.

The Tories seem to forget...

They created a toxic relationship with the French OUT OF CHOICE
They left the Dublin agreement OUT OF CHOICE
They left Europol OUT OF CHOICE
They chose to not have access to Schenghen databases OUT OF CHOICE

This is their mess, their making, they were warned but listened the bigots and racists instead

 

[The Clamp]

The Tories seem to forget...

They created a toxic relationship with the French OUT OF CHOICE
They left the Dublin agreement OUT OF CHOICE
They left Europol OUT OF CHOICE
They chose to not have access to Schenghen databases OUT OF CHOICE

This is their mess, their making, they were warned but listened the bigots and racists instead

But but but immigrants, Jeremy Corbyn, taken back control!!!

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

No one asked them to come here. They are here illegally. If they came via France why not apply for asylum there? We are treating them far too well.

just out of interest, we have one of the lowest asylum seekers rates in Europe.

Suella Braverman’s inflammatory and rabble-rousing language is unjustified and way over the top. Everybody else does it better.

The UK has one of the lowest rates of asylum applications in Europe

In 2021, there were just eight asylum applicants for every 10,000 people resident in Britain.

www.newstatesman.com

 

[WATFORD zero]

just out of interest, we have one of the lowest asylum seekers rates in Europe.

Suella Braverman’s inflammatory and rabble-rousing language is unjustified and way over the top. Everybody else does it better.

The UK has one of the lowest rates of asylum applications in Europe

In 2021, there were just eight asylum applicants for every 10,000 people resident in Britain.

www.newstatesman.com

Yeah, but you can prove anything with facts

 

[carlzeiss]

I do wonder why so many people want to come here. The U.K. is a hostile shit hole with a racist government that treats it’s workers like serfs and pays them poverty wages.

They sling them into decrepit detention centres and threaten to illegally transport them to Rwanda before stirring up hatred for them and blaming them for all of our self inflicted f*** ups.

It really must be life or death for them because nobody would come here if they had a choice. Being poor in the U.K. under a Tory government is not only incredibly hard, it’s practically a crime.

Perhaps they thought that coming to the UK was better than living in a tent in France ?

Still things are looking up 5 years free rent , council tax and energy bills might ease the pain

Brits offered money to house Channel migrants amid record numbers and soaring hotel bills

Homeowners are being offered contracts to take in Channel migrants as the government struggles with record numbers arriving on Britain's shores.

www.lbc.co.uk

 

[macbeth]

Amazed no video footage has emerged of what things are like inside these detention centres, rumours of scabies and diphtheria and even a case of MRSA. Truly shocking this is happening inside our borders

mobile phones are allegedly sometimes confiscated from migrants upon arrival. but the BBC have now got photos of children sleeping on the floor of a 'processing centre'

 

[goldstone]

just out of interest, we have one of the lowest asylum seekers rates in Europe.

The UK has one of the lowest rates of asylum applications in Europe

In 2021, there were just eight asylum applicants for every 10,000 people resident in Britain.

www.newstatesman.com

Any comparison with the rest of Europe is irrelevant. The number is way way too high.. I don't mind immigration, but there is a system through which to apply. If you want to come to this country follow the correct procedure.

 

[BBassic]

Any comparison with the rest of Europe is irrelevant.

Especially when that comparison directly shows we take in a small amount. Comparatively. To the rest of Europe. Eh?

 

[The Clamp]

Any comparison with the rest of Europe is irrelevant. The number is way way too high.. I don't mind immigration, but there is a system through which to apply. If you want to come to this country follow the correct procedure.

I bet you didn’t even know the number when you typed this nonsense.


For many people in war torn or oppressive countries , there is no “correct procedure”.

And for your information there is no such thing as an illegal crossing of the channel. The crime is being committed by the people traffickers. Not the immigrants.

It is not a crime to make your way to a country by any means necessary in order to claim asylum.

So please, before you spew any more of your ignorant bile, avail yourself of the facts.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Any comparison with the rest of Europe is irrelevant. The number is way way too high.. I don't mind immigration, but there is a system through which to apply. If you want to come to this country follow the correct procedure.

There is no correct procedure because the Tories closed them all, and refused the French offer to set up a processing centre. Even Ukrainians cannot apply online now.

Here is the United Nations convention from 1951. Now you cannot claim ignorance.

 

[The Clamp]

There is no correct procedure because the Tories closed them all, and refused the French offer to set up a processing centre. Even Ukrainians cannot apply online now.

Here is the United Nations convention from 1951. Now you cannot claim ignorance.

Excellent post. I was looking for that.

 

[carlzeiss]

Anybody here know which war the Albanians are fleeing from ?

 

[The Clamp]

Anybody here know which war the Albanians are fleeing from ?

Rise in Albanian asylum seekers may be down to criminal gangs | Immigration and asylum | The Guardian

Albanian gangs controlling UK drugs trade offer minibus trip and Channel crossing for £4,000 on TikTok

amp.theguardian.com

This is a good article.

As most people realise, not all refugees are legitimate.

There is a large network of Albanian criminals in the U.K.

I know from work I’ve done that they are pivotal in the sex and drugs trades.

Any Albanian asylum claim needs close scrutiny not just because they may be criminals but because they may be victims themselves and require safeguarding.

As always, these things are not black and white and not Albanians are here for nefarious reasons.
Many would be vulnerable to sexual exploitation or modern day slavery if they stayed in Albania.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The Albanian criminals are being deported.

Foreign criminals removed to Albania

Offenders removed had received combined prison sentences of more than 55 years

www.gov.uk

Not all Albanians are criminals.

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

Which is what?

We don’t take the most, but we are more likely to grant refugee status to those seeking IP.

Those are the facts

Does that not suggest that the majority claiming asylum are 'genuine'.