Dave the OAP
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Protestant martyrs burned in Lewes wasn't it?
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Im not homophobic,BUT..........
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m20gull
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Yesdave the gaffer said:
smudge
Up the Albion!
afters said:they were protestants though......
Yes, I know it was Protestants!!!!
(I'm embarrassed to admit I was a "South St Juvenile!")
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I was trying to make a point that us "straight" people have some pretty crazy, irrational, events in this county, bonfire night in Lewes being the main one.
In 1554 17 protestants were arrested and tried in Lewes for the crime of being protestants during the time of the Catholic Queen Mary 1. These men were burnt at the stake for their crime. The anti-Catholic feeling in Lewes began again in 1850, the year that Pope Pius IX, by the Bull Universalis Ecclesiae, restored the Catholic hierarchy in England. The hierarchy had come to an end during the reign of Elizabeth I, with the death of the last Marian bishop. Now the hierarchy was re-established with Westminster as the principal see. The Archbishop of Westminster became, in Roman Catholic eyes, the lawful successor of the Catholic archbishops of Canterbury. There was considerable anger in non-Catholic circles. The ill-feeling ran quite high within the Anglican church, some members of which feared a takeover, and also because within the Church of England there was the growth of Oxford High Church Movement - led by Pusey, Keble and Newman - which was active in Sussex, particularly in Brighton.
The fact that we still celebrate this in the 21st century seems crazy to me, to a Catholic this would be very offensive, yet no-one says a word about it. I don't see big debates about it, yet homo-sexual people have a party and people moan about silly string and the mess that's left behind. I was trying to show the double standards that run through some people. If that makes a moron, so be it.
In 1554 17 protestants were arrested and tried in Lewes for the crime of being protestants during the time of the Catholic Queen Mary 1. These men were burnt at the stake for their crime. The anti-Catholic feeling in Lewes began again in 1850, the year that Pope Pius IX, by the Bull Universalis Ecclesiae, restored the Catholic hierarchy in England. The hierarchy had come to an end during the reign of Elizabeth I, with the death of the last Marian bishop. Now the hierarchy was re-established with Westminster as the principal see. The Archbishop of Westminster became, in Roman Catholic eyes, the lawful successor of the Catholic archbishops of Canterbury. There was considerable anger in non-Catholic circles. The ill-feeling ran quite high within the Anglican church, some members of which feared a takeover, and also because within the Church of England there was the growth of Oxford High Church Movement - led by Pusey, Keble and Newman - which was active in Sussex, particularly in Brighton.
The fact that we still celebrate this in the 21st century seems crazy to me, to a Catholic this would be very offensive, yet no-one says a word about it. I don't see big debates about it, yet homo-sexual people have a party and people moan about silly string and the mess that's left behind. I was trying to show the double standards that run through some people. If that makes a moron, so be it.
The Wookiee
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caz99 said:
No, it is serious question I am asking.
I am merely saying that there was no trouble or reported arrests where as if it any other event with that volume of people there would of been!
The Large One
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smudge said:
No-one accused you of being a BNP member (at least I didn't), but I am sure that hey would welcome you with open arms. And as for you thinking you are not homophobic. Wooh-hoo! That's a good one.
Meade's Ball
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The Wookiee said:
Yeah the police are big supporters of the gay community.
The Wookiee
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Meade's_Ball said:Yeah the police are big supporters of the gay community.
So the answer to my question is: All 100,000+people were all well behaved.
why not just say that instead of the sarcastic reply with the dunce smilie?
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Meade's Ball
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The Wookiee said:
Sorry. Sarcasm is often my way.
No offence meant.
No one could say that all homosexual people are saints, but as a community the message concerns tolerance of all people. And has been said before, Pride is a celebration of such tolerance, so why would anyone go to such an event with a violent or intolerant attitude?
I, personally, have never come across a gay person who hates all straight people. And long may it continue.
Dancin Ninja BHA
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Pavilionaire said:
The Wookiee
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Meade's_Ball said:
I am not talking about violence, more lewd behaviour, drug taking and public indecency, all I am sure were a plenty in Brighton on Saturday.
Why were these offences not punished?
looney
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lil ol junior and the rest of you stupids are a bit confused so let me enlighten as there are 2 issues?
Marching?
No problem with this as its about freedom, anyone can do it unless you wear an orange sash and a bowler hat, but then Governments tend to have their favoured causes to be bigoted about.
Snogging?
Well were does expressing love stop and lewd behaviour begin?
They can take it back in the closet as far as I am concerned, ditto straights, I dont ask to watch this and if I did I'd pay money to watch prettier people do it better.
I'm not a facist, I dont use loaded terms like "homophobe " to smear opponents and stiffle debate.
Your god has spoken, now lock this thread as there is nothing else to be saud.
Marching?
No problem with this as its about freedom, anyone can do it unless you wear an orange sash and a bowler hat, but then Governments tend to have their favoured causes to be bigoted about.
Snogging?
Well were does expressing love stop and lewd behaviour begin?
They can take it back in the closet as far as I am concerned, ditto straights, I dont ask to watch this and if I did I'd pay money to watch prettier people do it better.
I'm not a facist, I dont use loaded terms like "homophobe " to smear opponents and stiffle debate.
Your god has spoken, now lock this thread as there is nothing else to be saud.
Meade's Ball
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The Wookiee said:
I don't know. I haven't all the answers. I would say there are likely thousands of incidents of people shagging on Brighton beach every month by people of all persuasions. I doubt the police see it as a problem.
But i don't understand what you are suggesting. A conspiracy of some kind?
Deano's Right Foot
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Wookie,
Well on lewd behaviour, I didn't see any - did you? I saw a few people kissing, but I see that most days. Drug taking - I saw fewer people smoking drugs than at most festivals I go to and was not offered to buy anything as I am regularly at Notting Hill Carnival or Womad, Reading etc. Public indecency - I did see a few buttocks, but again only as many as at your average festival or Notting Hill. I certainly saw no "front bottoms"
I know my evidence is scant as I was only one person in a hundred thousand, but if there were such "crimes" committed I am sure that these would have been treated with a softly softly approach by the police as they would at other similar events, whether those events were concerned with sexuality or not.
Well on lewd behaviour, I didn't see any - did you? I saw a few people kissing, but I see that most days. Drug taking - I saw fewer people smoking drugs than at most festivals I go to and was not offered to buy anything as I am regularly at Notting Hill Carnival or Womad, Reading etc. Public indecency - I did see a few buttocks, but again only as many as at your average festival or Notting Hill. I certainly saw no "front bottoms"
I know my evidence is scant as I was only one person in a hundred thousand, but if there were such "crimes" committed I am sure that these would have been treated with a softly softly approach by the police as they would at other similar events, whether those events were concerned with sexuality or not.
lost in london
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Re: Re: Im not homophobic,BUT..........
hove born&bred said:
The Wookiee
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Thank you all for your comments and with the all that has been said I have learnt a great deal and if one thing has come out of this debate is:
Brighton & Hove City can put on spectacular events which attract over 100,000 people into our city without major disorder and disruption, which all involved must be applauded.
OK the pride thing was not everybody's taste but surely now lessons have been learnt from the excellent organisation and policing that going forward can only be a huge plus in attracting any other major event to our City.
Brighton & Hove City can put on spectacular events which attract over 100,000 people into our city without major disorder and disruption, which all involved must be applauded.
OK the pride thing was not everybody's taste but surely now lessons have been learnt from the excellent organisation and policing that going forward can only be a huge plus in attracting any other major event to our City.
alan partridge
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looney said:
you want to stop people snogging in public?
blimey, you not getting much looney?